Posted on 11/01/2020 1:42:57 PM PST by Ennis85
Also, John 8:1-11.
The New Testament supercedes the Old. And the Israelites of the Old Testament got their butts kicked *repeatedly* for being judgy arsehats.
You are a DB.
Indeed. A hypothetical if I may. Replace the thief on the cross with a homosexual. Everything else being the same, does our Savior save that sinner? I believe yes.
Trump has always been supportive of gays. He’s hired openly gay people in major positions. He just doesn’t support gay marriage.
“And the Israelites of the Old Testament got their butts kicked *repeatedly* for being judgy arsehats.”
Right. The Pharisees. God told them to “judge not” in a certain context.
I go to: “Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good. Romans 12:9”. It requires you to make judgments often — be discerning.
Never giving an inch never ever works.
If it helps get Trump reelected and gives us a majority in the Senate, then State Laws against abortion might actually be upheld by the supreme Court.
And our country won’t burn down in flames at which point it won’t really make a damn difference who is gay or not.
As for judgment, I’ll leave that to God.
He’s much better at it than me.
Jesus came for the sinners. Love the sinner hate the sin. Glass houses... take your pick. Hate earns you nothing.
It is a concept foreign to many self righteous folk. I cannot go one hour while awake without sinning in actions or thought. Try it some time. Consciously think about what you do and think up and keep a record, you’ll be shocked at what a jerk you are even if you want and try your best to be good.
Of course homosexuality is a sin. Of course they will answer for it like everyone else will for their sins. But I am not the judge of their sins and as long as they do not do anything that has a direct impact on my life (harms me), I have no business going after them as this would be “persecution.”
Where things get muddy is that today you have the gay agenda which is pushed in schools, Hollywood, now with LGBTQA month in June, special perks with the Ryan White Act, gay parades, public gay symbols worn etc... If you stick your life into people’s faces, you will get challenged by those that have differing views, and they have that right if you make it a public matter because their values and ideas are just as valid as yours. Just like a homo has the right to wear a gay button, someone has the right to say to them that this disgusts them. Not sure if that makes any sense?
I believe you are correct - in fact, I’d expect that He would save *any* ultimately repentant sinner nailed to the cross beside him, no matter his offense. Consider that the thief on the cross was thought to be a highwayman who waylaid, robbed and killed travelers, an offense far worse than homosexuality, and Jesus saved him.
Think “Ric Grennell” and be happy. He has done us great good.
The New Testament supercedes the Old. And the Israelites of the Old Testament got their butts kicked *repeatedly* for being judgy arsehats.
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Funny, I thought they got canned for being permissive and indifferent to God’s edicts not for strictly adhering to them. Ya might wanna check that translation of the Old Testament you’ve been reading.
I shall say, however, that I can tolerate the whole LGBTXYZ nonsense as long as government isn’t compelling us to endorse it. As long as that is the case then....meh...I don’t care. But it’s just a matter of time before some Dem becomes president again and the whole persecution will begin again. I’m not sure how long those who desire a society free from secularist persecution will tolerate it.
The NT absolutely does not supersede th OT, except in the case of the Passover feast due to the Lamb’s sacrifice. One quarter of the NT is quotes from the OT. Jesus Himself said “the Scripture cannot be broken” when referring to the OT (John 10:35).
Be discerning, yes. But not judge.
I think the Trumps have struck the right balance of honoring equality without caving to political correctness :)
Romans 12:9 is (as with many items in Paul’s letters incorporated into the Bible) somewhat at odds with many things Jesus himself said in the Gospels themselves. Of course, you shouldn’t go hang out with the Crew of Evil, yet Jesus also tells us to not hate our fellow sinners.
Also, it wasn’t just the Pharisees getting a size 12 sandal shoved where the sun don’t shine in the Old Testament. There’s a reason Moses had to lead them out of slavery.
Fun and unrelated fact: There’s an account in the Bible of what appears to be biological warfare.
” Does that stop she. the child leaves the womb ir is it ok to murder 5 year olds as well?”
Not until they are 65+ then you can douse them with covid.
Alleluia. The Good News.
So, we’re supposed to be keeping Jewish dietary laws? That’s the Old Testament too, and yet I see Christians eating pork...
Does the fertility problem really have much to do with gays or might it be be more of an issue with the 95% of people who have a desire for the opposite sex?
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