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Ford F-150 Electric Pickup May Get Newly Patented Range Extender in Its Bed
https://www.caranddriver.com/ ^ | OCT 6, 2020 | BY ROBERTO BALDWIN OCT 6, 2020

Posted on 10/06/2020 4:48:01 PM PDT by RomanSoldier19

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To: RomanSoldier19

“Ford F-150 Electric Pickup May Get Newly Patented Range Extender in Its Bed”

in other words, it will a gasoline powered vehicle just like the Prius ...


121 posted on 10/06/2020 9:49:22 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: cornfedcowboy


122 posted on 10/06/2020 9:55:27 PM PDT by RomanSoldier19 (Game over, man! Game over! ; : rem ad triarios redisse is)
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To: TexasGator

Where does this new fuel come from?

The net output cannot be more than the initial charge, minus losses to waste heat, friction and resistance.

Any recovery is even less than the input to do the work that is now being collected via brake charging etc again, none of these syatens approach hi efficiency. And, the electrical power the battery is providing already is from other sources, about 90% on ave from petroleum or coal.

Exchange, not improvement.

Gorism.


123 posted on 10/06/2020 10:00:07 PM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: RomanSoldier19

Imploded!


124 posted on 10/06/2020 10:03:36 PM PDT by Ozark Tom
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To: caltaxed

Inline six with a long stroke crank delivers more low end torque whether gasoline or diesel.


125 posted on 10/06/2020 10:06:26 PM PDT by Ozark Tom
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To: RomanSoldier19

My last pick up truck went so far (3 tanks), the only range extender I needed was better bladder control.


126 posted on 10/07/2020 5:38:06 AM PDT by Neverlift (When someone says "you just can't make this stuff up" odds are good, somebody did.)
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To: RomanSoldier19

FUEL TANK-——

NO FOSSIL FUELS?????


127 posted on 10/07/2020 6:37:18 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Manly Warrior

LOl. I said nothing of the kind. Stay off the sauce.


128 posted on 10/07/2020 8:09:53 AM PDT by Seruzawa (TANSTAAFL!)
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To: Manly Warrior

“Where does this new fuel come from?”

Gravity.


129 posted on 10/07/2020 10:26:13 AM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: Manly Warrior

“The net output cannot be more than the initial charge, minus losses to waste heat, friction and resistance.”

An ICE vehicle burns fuel going downhill and may use up brakes.

An EV generates new fuel and will not require brakes.


130 posted on 10/07/2020 10:29:26 AM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: Manly Warrior

“about 90% on ave from petroleum or coal.”

38%.


131 posted on 10/07/2020 10:35:34 AM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: TexasGator

They don’t generate fuel, they recuperate some but not all of the energy used climbing up the hill


132 posted on 10/07/2020 10:36:53 AM PDT by BiteYourSelf
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To: BiteYourSelf

“They don’t generate fuel, they recuperate some but not all of the energy used climbing up the hill”

ICE vehicles don’t recuperate any energy. The use energy to go downhill.

EV’s generate energy going downhill.


133 posted on 10/07/2020 10:39:21 AM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: catnipman

“in other words, it will a gasoline powered vehicle just like the Prius ...”

Nope.


134 posted on 10/07/2020 10:48:13 AM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: TexasGator

Not if they shut the engine off.


135 posted on 10/07/2020 10:51:49 AM PDT by BiteYourSelf
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To: BiteYourSelf

“Not if they shut the engine off.”

You really should think through your consequences before posting.


136 posted on 10/07/2020 11:01:26 AM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: TexasGator

Golly.

The amount of charge expended to go a hill will always be greater than the amount of charge generated by going back down.

Friction ( air resistance, rolling and mech), heat, system inefficiencies and gravity on the way up.

Friction ( air resistance, rolling and mech), heat, system inefficiencies on the way down.

So, no free lunch. Ever.


137 posted on 10/07/2020 1:18:37 PM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: Manly Warrior

“So, no free lunch. Ever.”

The ICE vehicle uses energy to go downhill and may burn out the brakes.

The EV gets free energy going downhill and may. not require brakes.

If you want to burn gas and brakes going downhill, go for it. If you want free energy and save your brakes, go EV.


138 posted on 10/07/2020 3:48:22 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: Manly Warrior

“Friction ( air resistance, rolling and mech), heat, system inefficiencies and gravity on the way up.”

Same for both.

But with the EV you get gravity energy back and a lot less friction. Win-win for EV.


139 posted on 10/07/2020 3:55:44 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: Manly Warrior

“The amount of charge expended to go a hill will always be greater than the amount of charge generated by going back down.”

But the total energy expended will be less for the EV. And you don’t wear out your brakes.


140 posted on 10/07/2020 4:16:21 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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