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Two national polls out today: Reuters has Biden +10 and NBC has Biden +14
NBC and Reuters ^ | October 5, 2020 | Me

Posted on 10/04/2020 6:40:04 AM PDT by St. Louis Conservative

Reuters link

https://t.co/mCdTllTVuk

NBC poll

https://t.co/KJicRpznHq

Umm, this needs to turn around quickly or else the Senate will be a total wash out too.


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To: St. Louis Conservative

Now there are some credible sources. Reputations built on lies and it continues.


161 posted on 10/04/2020 8:14:34 AM PDT by JayAr36 (My disgust with government is complete.)
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To: St. Louis Conservative
Biden may well win, but by double-digits is a complete lie. They pull this song-and-dance every four years. ABC News, as one example, had Hillary Clinton up by 13 points literally just two weeks before the 2016 presidential election.

The problem is, the only polls that get counted towards a pollster's accuracy rating are their final polls of the race. All the polls considerably tightened near the very end of the race in 2016, and now you have people and pundits today being like "hey, the polls in 2016 weren't so inaccurate, that's just a myth." It's so disingenuous.

Watch it happen again. Seriously. It'll be the end of October or November 1-2 and all the pollsters will be "ooooh, look, Biden's lead over Trump is magically two points now, not twelve, silly us!" Then in 2024, people will write about how the 2020 polls weren't so bad based on those very final numbers and not the garbage most of the pollsters were churning out throughout the bulk of October.

162 posted on 10/04/2020 8:15:24 AM PDT by Trump20162020
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To: cowboyusa

“Means it is very close in the swing states.”

I agree but again, where is the “news” here?


163 posted on 10/04/2020 8:16:04 AM PDT by billyboy15
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To: cpdiii

In a year where voter participation is going to set a near-term record, and it’s going to set that record because of the vast expansion of mail-in voting (and its associated fraud/ballot harvesting etc.), and because that vast expansion/fraud is turning a vast number of REGISTERED voters into LIKELY or even CERTAIN voters as never before....

Isn’t it about time we dropped the “poll I no like is worthless because only REGISTERED voters!1!!” excuse?


164 posted on 10/04/2020 8:19:07 AM PDT by PermaRag (WANTED: millions of patriotic gun owners who are willing to trade bullets for freedom)
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To: jstolzen

Meanwhile, Biden is spending in areas where he should be sure to lose.
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Biden is spending time campaigning? Where?


165 posted on 10/04/2020 8:19:16 AM PDT by snarkytart (The media reads teleprompters for a living and reiterates Dem talking points, they are ignorant.)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Bwahahahahahahaha

Well if you are going to lie, lie big...

The people making these polls know this is garbage.


166 posted on 10/04/2020 8:20:06 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: All

Remember this. The same people who tell you white supremacists are mostly responsible for the rioting violence are the same ones giving you these poll numbers.


167 posted on 10/04/2020 8:24:06 AM PDT by MNDude
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To: PermaRag; Williams

I would also say the the Shaheen re-election campaign in NH is dominating the airwaves (for anyone who still watches television), there is one annoying ad in particular I have seen 100 times, if you got your information from TV you would not know the name of her opponent (yes, I am voting for Corky Messner [whose real name is Bryant] on November 3).

The organized GOP (whether you call them RINOs or GOPe or whatever) has committed suicide by keeping their options open with regard to the Trump presidency (and being so obvious about it). Trump’s failure to form an Administration has not helped.

People here talk about the GOP like an organized party with ideas that appeal to voters. Nothing could be further from the truth.

It is a con game, a racket which in power exists to promote a financialized economy, backbreaking debt, globalization with accompanying destruction of the white middle and working classes, and foreign wars which operate against American interests.

Who in their right mind would vote for that?


168 posted on 10/04/2020 8:24:25 AM PDT by Jim Noble
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To: byecomey

More than anecdotal this follows a pattern of crimes that evidence has already been gathered.


169 posted on 10/04/2020 8:24:33 AM PDT by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: CapnJack

I see tons of Biden signs in my upper class neighborhood. A few trump but vastly outnumbered by Biden signs, BLM signs, and the local Dem who is trying to defeat the incumbent Repub congresswoman in a swing district.


170 posted on 10/04/2020 8:24:43 AM PDT by St. Louis Conservative
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To: Proudcongal
Supporters outside Walter Reed now are wonderful!

Trump Supporter Outside Walter Reed Hospital: ‘He’s Been Fighting for Us; I’m Going to Fight for Him’

He'll Beat COVID-19, and Biden Too!#TrumpLandslide2020 #WalterReedHospital#TrumpCovid pic.twitter.com/XNxOY5J55B— WINNING🇺🇸AMERICA Under SIEGE 2020 (@TrumpLadyFran) October 4, 2020



This is moving. pic.twitter.com/72oQdGl1ZH— Breitbart News (@BreitbartNews) October 4, 2020


171 posted on 10/04/2020 8:26:45 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("After all...tomorrow is another day." Scarlett O'Hara, Gone with the Wind)
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To: libertylover
Americans have decided to go with ANTIFA and BLM and the violence and deep state wins. Yep, if it's accurate, that's what it means

People follow the strong horse.

If the streets of Minneapolis, Seattle, and Portland ran red with the blood of the insurrectionists in June, Trump would be cruising to re-election.

172 posted on 10/04/2020 8:27:18 AM PDT by Jim Noble
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Pure B$.

Shun it and count your toes. If you have 10 or 9 like I do, you can relax.


173 posted on 10/04/2020 8:27:46 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (3 NOV. VOTE FOR JOBS! NOT RIOTING BLM/ANTIFA/DEM/MOBS! POLICE FOR US! NOT JUST FOR THE ELITE!)
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To: nathanbedford

ROFL!


174 posted on 10/04/2020 8:29:02 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: cowboyusa

Sorry, depth is not rewarded with the presidency. Breadth is.

Wining NY you 20 points doesn’t give you one more electoral vote than winning it by 1 vote.

Dems have no breadth.

And one more thing to ponder... find a poll, any poll, even a statewide poll in the bluest of blue states, that asks these 2 standard questions :

Who did you vote for in 16?

And

Who do you plan to vote for in 20?

Show me a single poll, any poll, asking those questions anywhere by any group that shows anything other than a net movement toward not away from Trump.

I don’t care what the headline result of the poll is, show me just one poll taken this entire cycle by anyone that shows anything but a net movement toward Trump on those questions and then I will believe Biden has a shot at winning...

I have had this as an open challenge now for months, and not one person has shown me any poll that counters this, not one.

Trump will overperform his 16 number virtually across the board..

The only shot for Dems is massive (and I mean unprecidented levels of massive) fraud.


175 posted on 10/04/2020 8:29:12 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Jim Noble

Just pray for the purple states. The blue states are lost. PT still has a great Electoral College staff.


176 posted on 10/04/2020 8:29:24 AM PDT by cowboyusa (America Cowboy Up)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Alex, Can I get who has less credibility for 250k, please.


177 posted on 10/04/2020 8:29:52 AM PDT by SERE_DOC ( The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it. TJ)
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To: CapnJack
I only hope that when things get so bad in the coming years the people will remember and still have so way to turn things back around

An opposition party will have to arise first.

178 posted on 10/04/2020 8:29:53 AM PDT by Jim Noble
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To: Jim Noble

Electoral college shot.


179 posted on 10/04/2020 8:30:04 AM PDT by cowboyusa (America Cowboy Up)
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To: cowboyusa

Best case is a repeat of 2016 where the popular vote is against Trump (almost certainly even more so than 2016) but the Electoral College is all that matters, for now, and he does get to 270.

Trump damn well BETTER be ahead in Ohio and Georgia though some signs indicate that it’s far from a certainty, and those 2 plus Florida at least have Republican Governors in charge which (somehow) may reduce the Democrat capacity for vote fraud.

But the other large swing states are a big problem, and they are all controlled by Democrats who have already stated (in different words) that they will impose no limit to post-Nov. 3 fraud: Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, North Carolina are top of the list. Courts have intervened, for now, to impose time limits for fraud in Wisconsin, but not the others AFAIK.

Then there are states Trump won in 2016 that aren’t as prominent as the big ones but every bit as dicey (Arizona, Iowa) to say the least. The path to 270 is obvious and doable, but the polls — even the ones that we’re allowed to believe here, forget the others — aren’t very warm and fuzzy at the moment.


180 posted on 10/04/2020 8:30:09 AM PDT by PermaRag (WANTED: millions of patriotic gun owners who are willing to trade bullets for freedom)
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