Posted on 10/04/2020 6:40:04 AM PDT by St. Louis Conservative
Reuters link
https://t.co/mCdTllTVuk
NBC poll
https://t.co/KJicRpznHq
Umm, this needs to turn around quickly or else the Senate will be a total wash out too.
Awesome to watch. I wonder how many people will show up to Walter Reed Hospital when Trump is released? It’s going to be epic! Of course, the media will ignore it. If it were Biden getting this much love the MSM would be swooning, covering it 24/7.
I would say, Biden plus 4.6 nationally. Electoral college is tied.
PT is VERY unpopular in the Blur states.
So Trump is very unpopular in the blue states?
Is that news? What is your point?
Means it is very close in the swing states.
Unfortunately I don’t see these polls as too far off. As I have posted before, here in NH I see more and more Biden signs everywhere.
People in this country really do what Socialism and Marxism. They just think they will get free stuff and still be able to live their lives as normal.
This country will get it good and hard when they realize the mistake they made come next spring.
I only hope that when things get so bad in the coming years the people will remember and still have so way to turn things back around.
But I hold very little hope for that to happen.
If these polls are even remotely true, I attribute it to the tens of millions in Biden’s non-stop ads.
Been on this board, a long time, and witnessed the the day after shell shocked reactions more times than I can count.
In 2016, we were polled constantly, all throughout the primary and into the general election, in South Carolina.
Got rid of our home phone in December that year. Have used mobiles ever since, and not one poll call to date.
I don’t automatically assume that since the polls were so wrong in 2016, they are way off this time as well. I hope so, but do not feel the certainty that so many on here do.
How far off were they in 2012?
I'd love to see the internals. A recent poll had independents breaking to Biden by 26%. In the last 7 elections, the biggest own of Independents was 0bama in 2008 and he was +8. Any poll that has Biden more than that in independents is complete and utter garbage.
“PT is VERY unpopular in the Blue states.”
Not surprising, obviously.
I’m sure that those who bleat about an “enthusiasm gap” which massively favors Trump (and by extension, other Republicans though not quite as intensely) mean well, but it’s a total fraud.
While even the looniest of lefties has a hard time getting excited about Dementia Joe, their enthusiasm is 100% channeled into hatred for Trump (and by extension, his supporters and all other Republican politicians).
That so-called enthusiasm gap in 2020 not only isn’t a sizable plus for our side, it probably is a negative number — like it was in a major way in 2018’s “Revenge Of The Karens” which, with some well-placed vote fraud, helped hand over the House to the Rats.
The 2018 massacre was absolutely a referendum on Trump, and now for 2020 we can add in add in the COVID Factor as well as record-setting Democrat vote fraud, if it’s necessary.
Just like 2010 and 2014 midterms were referendums on Bonzo the Wonder Chimp — weren’t those great? The 2010 momentum didn’t carry over at all to 2012 because of the horrible ticket the Republicans ran, but 2014 perhaps did presage 2016 a little bit. A lot changes in 2 years; in the 2 years from 2018 to 2020 can we say the electorate (which was very adverse then) has changed for the better, or for the worse?
I tend to agree with you.
9 point oversampling of democrats and this was of 800 registered voters and not likely voters. THIS POLL IS GARBAGE PROPAGANDA.
From Gallup Polling below is a breakdown of party affiliation for the past year.
In politics, as of today, do you consider yourself a Republican, a Democrat or an independent?
Trend since 2004
Republicans Independents Democrats
% % %
2020 Aug 31-Sep 13 29 40 30
2020 Jul 30-Aug 12 26 41 31
2020 Jul 1-23 28 38 29
2020 Jun 8-30 26 38 33
2020 May 28-Jun 4 25 40 31
2020 May 1-13 28 37 31
2020 Apr 14-28 30 36 31
2020 Apr 1-14 27 39 31
2020 Mar 13-22 30 36 30
2020 Mar 2-13 30 38 30
2020 Feb 17-28 30 39 29
2020 Feb 3-16 33 39 26
2020 Jan 16-29 30 42 27
2020 Jan 2-15 27 45 27
2019 Dec 2-15 28 41 28
2019 Nov 1-14 30 38 31
2019 Oct 14-31 28 39 31
2019 Oct 1-13 26 43 29
Nonsense. Biden’s people don’t believe this one bit. They have suddenly switched to trying door-to-door campaigning to boost their support. Biden is not miles ahead. He knows it and his people know it. Trump will win handily.
Ping to #41. Anecdotal evidence but lovely to read!
Also, one of the polls I saw had Biden leading by 20+ points among seniors. Although I do think there is some softness there, 20+ is flat out impossible IMO and not supported by VBM data either.
My fear was that they’d figure out a way to get COVID ramped up again in October. Looks like it’s working.
Is this your first presidential election cycle?
It's like people never learn from past experience, isn't it? If we lived in a world where polls reflected reality, Hillary Clinton would be president. Even on election night pollsters had her with a 90 percent-plus chance of winning. How soon we forget.
Yeah, but PT is ahead on OH an GA. He only needs NC, FL, WS ,and one midwest state. He can lose nationally by 4.5 pts, and still win the E.C!
Arizona.
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