They were always that ... they just don’t hide it anymore
Scratch any liberal, and you'll find a tyrant underneath.
Yes.
Piers Morgan is always an interesting read. He’s a liberal, I guess. But he quite often surprises on the upside. Way more often than “a broken clock is right twice a day” sort of thing.
I suspect that Morgan is actually deep down a conservative. Or a libertarian anyway. He just has great difficulty in shedding that liberal skin of his.
I think there are many traditional old-line “liberals” who are thinking exactly the same thing. We need to encourage them, not stomp them into the ground.
One of the things I hate about some of the posters on FR is that they never forgive and never forget. So therefore, why should a liberal bother to change their opinion and take the grief for going public with their new opinion...if conservatives are going to hate you anyway for something they disagreed with you on in the past?
Forgive and forget and move on. Get support where you can.
Over time being a Liberal drives you completely Insane
Pluralism is a way station on the way from one orthodoxy to another.
They were always purveyors of "do it my way or ELSE!"
You just used to agree with what they were forcing people to do.
Now you don't.
Welcome to hell boy-o.
They preach tolerance but practice intolerance, preach love but practice hate, preach diversity but demand conformity. Thet sort of thing.
You haven't been paying attention, Piers.
So why have liberals become a shrieking mob hell-bent on silencing all dissent?
They have always been hell-bent on silencing all dissent.
They have become a shrieking mob because they have been confronted with truth.
They never championed anything that didnt have something for themselves
Man, Piers went on an almost epic rant there.
This is one of my favorite hobbyhorses. These current Leftists are NOT Liberals. Liberalism is a product of the Enlightenment, represented in the thought of such luminaries as Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, and most of the Founders. True liberal values include: free individuals in a competitive society, free markets & free trade, rule of law, private property, trade, individual liberty, personal responsibility, Republics, Constitutions, small government.
This went downhill in the late 19th century with importation of German philosophical ideas and the related advent of Progressivism, which pretended to be Liberal in philosophy, but was anything but. The New Dealers hid their program of national socialism by calling themselves liberals.
Socialists and Communists detest Liberal values, but have used the name as a way to get into power through the Democrat Party. This has led what passes for conservatives in America to make “Liberal” a title of opprobrium, wrecking the brand forever. That’s a shame because it deprives many people, including most Freepers, of a concept that comes closer to their world view and values than “conservative.”
duh
they just wanted the power
they love dictatorships and totalitarian systems
Liberals were ALWAYS intolorant. They ALWAYS spoke in good vs evil absolutes. People ignored their telling us who they are. Not so much anymore...
If Piers has to ask how this came about he’s not too bright is he?
I don’t want to read a book written by a dummy.
Yet here they are, screaming, shrieking, hollering and hectoring us all into a world of staggering intolerance, and attempting to inhibit or silence our freedom of speech, particularly on our most pertinent societal issues.
HOW has this happened?
WHY has this happened?
WHAT will stop it?
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They don’t see any need to debate anything because they’re so utterly convinced that they are 100 per cent right about everything.
The answer is that what they believe is what the leftists at elite educational institutions teach. The logic of leftism is that there can't be another valid opinion on anything outside of leftism. For example, saying that a so called "transgender" has mental problems cannot be accepted as a valid opinion, because by the logic of leftism the person saying it is an oppresser. How can the oppressor's opinion possibly be accepted as valid? There's no way to reason with that.
If he really wants the lunacy stopped, the elite educational institutions have to be almost gutted. If he doesn't recognize that fact, he's pretty dense. Or he doesn't want to go there because he'd be siding with conservatives.
Just complaining about it will have no effect. He's either too stupid to realize it, or he thinks it's more important not to sound like a conservative then to get at the source of the problem.
It's been a long time since people who call themselves liberals have been in favor of freedom and tolerance, not to mention gradual change.
Or was it when students at Oxford University banned clapping at Student Union events in case it triggered anxiety? That was nuts. Ultimately, I think the final straw came when Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau called for the word ‘mankind’ to be outlawed because it was sexist. There, right there, was the purest, maddest example of the world going completely stark raving bonkers...
I’ve spent years in the eye of this illiberal liberal storm....and I don’t have a prejudiced bone in my body. Yet that hasn’t stopped the woke crowd regularly and furiously branding me racist, sexist, homophobic and transphobic. There’s no room for logic or reason in the world of illiberal liberalism.
Yep.
Why? Because they keep losing and they can’t stand it any longer, even though we are going through the usual exchange of presidents every 8 years that has become common since Roosevelt.
Now they will try to win by any means possible.