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CARES ACT shuttering grocery stores
Vanity | 4/16/20 | Freeze

Posted on 04/16/2020 11:48:52 AM PDT by Freeze923

I own a grocery store in Northern Michigan. Or I did until today. 80% of my staff just quit because the CARES Act pays them more for sitting at home than to come into work. I pay them on average $600-700 per week. The CARES ACT will give them 80% of that (regular Michigan unemployment 480-560) plus an additional $600 through the cares act. So $1100 to sit at home or $600 to come to work.

But if they quit they don't get unemployment right?

Wrong the CARES ACT says if the employee is uncomfortable working because of the Covid-virus they qualify for unemployment.

No use putting out a help wanted sign, I can't complete with what the governments (state and federal) are paying them.

I am one of 3 grocery stores in the county. Say hello to the food shortage!

(Just talked to one of the other stores, His staff is grumbling about the same thing. Haven't walked yet but it would not surprise him.)


TOPICS: US: Michigan; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: caresact; economy; food; grocery; michigan; unemployment
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To: Jane Long

Thanks...it’s part and parcel of being a parent. What you don’t expect is that they’ll get cancer. That’s a whole new ball game in itself.


101 posted on 04/16/2020 2:32:45 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne)
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To: Tunehead54

God Bless You, and thank you for your kind words. I was raised Catholic, but my mother always told us “there’s the church...if you want to go to it...go, if you don’t...don’t.” I don’t go go church, but I do pray every day to the Lord, and thank him every day for all that he has given me.


102 posted on 04/16/2020 2:38:59 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne)
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To: Freeze923

Bkmrk


103 posted on 04/16/2020 2:43:13 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear ("Progressives" (elitist Communists) "Love you to death".)
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To: Freeze923
I am sorry for your loss, but this is only the beginning. If I was you, I would get as far away from the city as I could, and take as much inventory as I could with me and my family.

Starvation and DEATH are coming to America. This virus was the trigger, but GOVERNMENT is the real primary cause of the impending destruction of America. God help us all.

104 posted on 04/16/2020 2:51:33 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Politics is the continuation of war by other means. --Clausewitz)
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To: xenia

“Stall?” This is the beginning of the end. Likely, MILLIONS will die from government mismanagement of this “crisis” which they likely intentionally caused.


105 posted on 04/16/2020 2:53:24 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Politics is the continuation of war by other means. --Clausewitz)
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To: 1FreeAmerican

Wow.


106 posted on 04/16/2020 3:01:50 PM PDT by tinyowl
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To: All

welcome to UBI my friends.


107 posted on 04/16/2020 3:16:24 PM PDT by Desslok
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To: mass55th

In my case, it was because:

1. Dad didn’t care except where my behavior made him look bad or otherwise reflected on him.
2. I’d long lost any respect or awe for him, because he was and is emphatically a do-what-I-say-not-what-I-do type.

Between those two, plus a literally psychotic mother and other family problems, I ended up having to function as an adult before I hit my teens. I was basically marking time until I graduated and got the hell outta there. The only thing to do was to endure.


108 posted on 04/16/2020 4:49:01 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Freeze923

I’m a Michigan Employer too. I’ve lost several employees who were offered a chance to work from home but to chose to “go on unemployment”.

I just listened to a statement and question/answer video from the Michigan Dept. Of Labor and Economic Opportunity on Youtube. It was released on the 14th. At the 11 min mark it is specifically asked if employees who “voluntarily” leave their jobs due to fear of getting sick will be eligible and the answer was no. That says to me that if I have work for you and you choose not to accept it, you won’t be getting unemployment.

One of my people has already contacted me about being denied.


109 posted on 04/16/2020 5:04:47 PM PDT by Nazu
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To: Freeze923

In Wisconsin if an employee quits, they are not eligible for UE benefits, only if they are unemployed through no fault of their own, can they collect.


110 posted on 04/16/2020 5:17:06 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: mass55th

Haha! Hope he does too!


111 posted on 04/16/2020 5:20:23 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Spktyr
Sounds like you had to grow up fast.

My father was born in Holland, and came here in 1912 with his parents and two brothers. They became citizens when their father was naturalized. I never knew any of my grandparents. My Dad worked on the NY Central Railroad his whole life, and my mother was a housewife who from time-to-time cleaned house for a neighbor. My parents weren't strict disciplinarians, but we all knew that the one thing you didn't do in front of my father, was talk back to my mother. My mother quit school when she was 16 to marry my father. My Dad had only gone to the 4th grade, so neither parent impressed education on us, although I did later get my B.A. and M.A., but after my parents were gone.

My father wasn't the type of Dad who played games with you, or played catch with my brother, and he wasn't much of a fix-it man at home. The railroad was his life. He got up and went to work at 5 a.m. every day, came home, ate supper, did his work reports every night, then went to bed. Every Saturday he made sauce, and every Sunday, and holiday he cooked a big meal. He was a better cook than my mother. He had the same schedule every day through his whole life.

I raised my two sons by myself. I divorced my only husband in 1979 when my youngest was 8 years old, and he's never kept in touch. He remarried, became a Jehovah Witness, moved out of state, and that was that. If he's still alive, he has no idea that his son had cancer. My youngest son decided he didn't want to contact him about it.

112 posted on 04/16/2020 6:16:58 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne)
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To: mass55th

Dear St. mass55th,

You’re welcome.

My Dad got out of Sunday Masses by taking the paper with him and reading it during the service.

It wasn’t long before he got to stay home on Sundays.

I will always love him for giving me the color comics section at church.

RIP Dad.

;-)


113 posted on 04/16/2020 6:24:50 PM PDT by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: Tunehead54

Your Dad had a plan, and it worked! I wonder if he’s got those Sunday comics set aside for you so you won’t be bored when you get to Heaven.


114 posted on 04/16/2020 6:34:04 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne)
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To: All

Ah, the good old days of “funemployment”.


115 posted on 04/16/2020 7:32:09 PM PDT by pluvmantelo (If elected, Biden will be the first President subject to the 25th amendment upon taking office)
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To: CodeToad

Given those numbers, I would not necessarily call it irresponsible to take more money for not working than working.

A person has to make a decision, and often it is they’ll work (or in this case, not work), for the highest bidder.

It would be irresponsible not to take the higher amount if you were supporting a family.


116 posted on 04/16/2020 7:59:22 PM PDT by Alas Babylon! (The prisons do not fill themselves. Get moving, Barr!)
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To: CodeToad
Think about the numbers: A $12.50/hour employee makes $2,000 before taxes each month. On unemployment in Colorado, they get about $1600 ($400/week) for unemployment insurance, plus $2,400 from the feds ($600/week) for a grand total of $4,000. Work: $2,000. Unemployment: $4,000.

Wow. Plus $1200 stimulus $

117 posted on 04/17/2020 6:53:22 AM PDT by daniel1212 ( Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: Tennessee Nana
Let’s see they quit today, April 16...their state opens up for business again on May 1...just 2 weeks of sitting at home getting taxpayers money and then they are out of luck...They will be cut of as of May 1st...

Unless a (expected) extension is given.

On May 1st they will have to admit they quit their job and they will not be eligible for unemployment because their employers will be expected to take them back at that time...because of the SBA rules for loans etc...

Unless liberals deem all who quit bcz of covidphobia eligible for unemployment regardless.

Only people who get the Wu Hu Flu will be exempt from the rules...they have a valid excuse to cease working...

So if they get themselves infected then they can get how much for how long?

118 posted on 04/17/2020 7:01:59 AM PDT by daniel1212 ( Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: Nazu
From the State of Michigan Web Site:

Employees

The following groups can now apply for unemployment benefits:

People who can’t work because of family care responsibilities, such as those who don’t have childcare due to school and daycare closures, and those who are taking care of sick loved ones
People who don’t have access to paid leave and are sick, quarantined, or can’t work because of compromised (weakened) immune systems
First responders who become sick or are quarantined because of exposure to COVID-19

Compromised (Weakened) immune systems includes Smoking, diabetes, asthma Forget about walking off for a second, Think about trying to hire someone away from unemployment. Right now I need 6-10 workers. I can pay them $450-$700 per week. On Unemployment they are getting $1000-$1200 per week. How many applicants do you think I am going to have? The CARES Act effective has caused the new minimum wage to be $22-$25 per hour. (To stock shelves and cashier) I have to offer someone $25 to stock shelves, to work the drive through, to be a gas station cashier. Maybe Wal-mart & meijers can pay 19 year olds $55,000 per year to stock shelves, but the Mom & pops will be gone!

119 posted on 04/17/2020 7:11:14 AM PDT by Freeze923
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To: Bitman

Yes.


120 posted on 04/17/2020 7:15:26 AM PDT by bagman
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