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The Sober Math Everyone Must Understand about the Pandemic
Facebook ^ | March 12, 2020 | Jason S. Warner

Posted on 03/17/2020 10:42:50 AM PDT by Perseverando

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To: grey_whiskers

Me personally or a statement in general, editorially speaking?


61 posted on 03/17/2020 11:30:27 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: Vermont Lt

I understand that hospitals can become overwhelmed - maybe the Dems should be outraged at them for not planning ahead and having a lot of extra “just in case” beds.

My daughter is an RN and I have friends who have worked with some big institutions - one was hired by the CDC to develop some standard sequencing for test and evaluations because so many doctors/medical centers use a mish-mash of protocols.

Another is a microbiologist,

They all have 2 similarities:
1. We need to take proper precautions but the panic has caused folks to take actions that are counterproductive,

2. The panic is irrational.

So many been showing models of the death rate - with varying data that has varied by 300% for the models, that nobody really knows enough to go into full panic mode...but here we are.

Some places already edicting mandatory lockdowns (while saying they have to release their prisoners - go figure) and each new drastic action fuels more drastic actions because if someone doesn’t take them and some extra folks die that MAY have been saved, the lawyers will have a field day.

At this stage, we cannot really be sure which actions are prudent and proper and which actions are merely knee-jerkers because someone else took some action.


62 posted on 03/17/2020 11:30:28 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: PGalt

Snicker...


63 posted on 03/17/2020 11:30:47 AM PDT by JayGalt (You can't teach a donkey how to tap dance. Nemo me impune lacessit!)
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To: Perseverando

On the other hand, Gateway Pundit is running a story claiming the Ethiopian head of WHO grossly overstated the mortality rate of COVID-19, leading to the panic. Problem is, it’s Gateway Pundit...

And the bigger problem is, we’re in the “fog of war” and it’s impossible to separate fact from bullshit from propaganda and intentional lies.


64 posted on 03/17/2020 11:30:56 AM PDT by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan.)
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To: BushCountry

H1N1 was the Spanish flu. It mutated again. And it will be back. It was knocked down, and herd immunity beat it.

This is not new stuff.


65 posted on 03/17/2020 11:31:19 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: lastchance

I hardly knew to which post I should respond. But you M Y F R I E N D say it so well.
For years I have avoided crowds and been puzzled as to why anyone would voluntarily go to any crowded place like a sports arena or outdoor festival.
Actually the month of Corona might be my favorite month forever.


66 posted on 03/17/2020 11:31:52 AM PDT by Honest Nigerian
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To: cornfedcowboy
We best err on the side of caution at least in the short term. If you don’t believe the threat is real, please play along with those who do for just a couple weeks. We should know a lot more come early April. Hopefully the worriers will be proved wrong.

That's my basic attitude. Yes I think this overblown. Yes I think quarantine is a questionable strategy. But I can bite the bullet and follow this cautious strategy for awhile. But more than a few weeks would be, in my opinion, a serious mistake.

67 posted on 03/17/2020 11:31:57 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: SkyDancer

Generally speaking.
(Look at all the Dems blaming Trump for EVERYTHING over the virus on other social media sites...some are practically accusing him of hand-injeccting it into the people in Kirkland Washington.)


68 posted on 03/17/2020 11:32:11 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

The NYC subway is still operating right now, even though it’s probably the most effective mechanism for conveying a pathogen anywhere in the country. That’s all I need to know about this idiocy. Close the restaurants but keel the subway running ... really?


69 posted on 03/17/2020 11:33:06 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Oh, but it's hard to live by the rules; I never could and still never do.")
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To: TheConservativeBanker

‘The Christians among us might want to consider whether we worship God or at the altar of “experts” approved by big government.’

well, you’re perfectly free to just pray your infirmities away...


70 posted on 03/17/2020 11:33:14 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: Steve_Seattle

Use South Korea as the model to follow for the United States. Almost every trend is positive.

6,838
Currently Infected Patients

6,779 (99%)
in Mild Condition

59 (1%)
Serious or Critica

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/south-korea/


71 posted on 03/17/2020 11:34:49 AM PDT by BushCountry (thinks he needs a gal whose name doesn't end in ".jpg")
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To: trebb

Not disagreeing. But, capacity is way different than death rate.

People think getting a bed is going to help them. If it’s not a respirator equipped bed... the only good it will do is keep you from falling down onto the ground.

Folks understand death. They don’t understand triage.

We are all special, unique flowers. A lot of folks are going to find out how boringly average they are.


72 posted on 03/17/2020 11:35:04 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: grey_whiskers

Thanks, thought so. But yeah, they’ll blame Trump for getting this virus under control and wiped out causing doctors to lose their jobs and hospitals to go out of business.


73 posted on 03/17/2020 11:35:07 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: Perseverando

With the exception of maybe NYC and LA, hospitals are FAR from overrun. It is possible (and we will find out in a few weeks) that we are flattening the curve way too much and we need to let this thing run through because the wait and lack of activity is hurting us more.
Some people get the impression that this virus will pass, as if you can paint blood on your door and hunker down for a few weeks. That is wrong. It will lurk among us for the rest of our lives. We can only use proper hygiene to fend it off. Hopefully, it is seasonal and hopefully we will find a vaccine. But every one of us WILL be exposed to it and it may or may not find us as a host. We may develop an immunity or we may get it again and again. This is just part of the risk of living.


74 posted on 03/17/2020 11:35:49 AM PDT by jimmygrace
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To: cornfedcowboy

I actually don’t have a problem with that. As most viruses run their course in a couple weeks.
However, much more beyond that and it won’t matter one way or another.
Because our economy will be so screwed up it will be like obama got elected for a 3rd term.


75 posted on 03/17/2020 11:35:53 AM PDT by Leep (Everyday is Trump Day!)
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To: calenel

[[We won’t know the exact number of cases until everybody is tested.]]

I’m not sure, but I think they are just guesstimating, based on rate of spread of known documented cases, population densities, etc- I’m sure there is some kind of math logic with allowable variables, and accepted spreads used to calculate- but i am not sure the author of this article factored all that in- like said, i aint good at math- so i don’t know- I do remember reading several years ago about how they go about guesstimating, to come up with reasonable acceptable results which factor in all kinds of stuff-

Something about unknown probabilities, i think? - a process to try to reduce uncertainty- There is observation of the known, plus calculations for the unknown that reduce as much as possible the errors due to the unknown- or something like that-


76 posted on 03/17/2020 11:37:05 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: eartick
Damn...a kindred spirit.

I have cows too...though.

Ha!!

77 posted on 03/17/2020 11:37:47 AM PDT by Osage Orange (Whiskey Tango Foxtrot)
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To: SkyDancer

ROFL! They might try just that!


78 posted on 03/17/2020 11:38:48 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: JayGalt
Of course I knew from the get go this guy was a far left jerk...

You just confirmed it.............

79 posted on 03/17/2020 11:39:18 AM PDT by Osage Orange (Whiskey Tango Foxtrot)
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To: jimmygrace

I only know about the hospitals my wife and daughter work at—two different, same city.

They are full to an average end of flu season level. But both have longer than normal patients waiting for a bed.

The larger of the two has 1 confirmed and a dozen or so unconfirmed. They bed wait time is extending.

It won’t take a lot of cases to push them up to prime flu level.

Obviously mileage varies all over the place.


80 posted on 03/17/2020 11:39:37 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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