Posted on 12/19/2019 7:58:59 PM PST by karpov
WASHINGTON The day after the House cast historic votes to impeach President Trump, Speaker Nancy Pelosi put an abrupt halt on the proceedings, holding back from sending the charges to the Republican-led Senate in a politically risky bid to exert influence over the contours of an election-year trial.
With some leading Democrats pushing to delay transmittal of the articles and others advocating that they be withheld altogether, the limbo is likely to persist until the new year. The House left town on Thursday for a two-week holiday recess without taking the votes to appoint impeachment managers, which is required to start the process in the Senate.
We are ready, said Ms. Pelosi, who has said she would not send the charges or name the lawmakers who would prosecute the case against Mr. Trump until she was certain of a fair process for a Senate trial. When we see what they have, we will know who and how many we will send over.
By withholding the articles, Ms. Pelosi is hoping that Mr. Trump who is eager for a trial to present his defense and clear his name will put pressure on Senator Mitch McConnell, Republican of Kentucky and the majority leader, to commit to Democratic demands, including the ability to call witnesses during the trial.
But the speakers strategy is also a gamble. Having toiled to present the House impeachment inquiry and the votes on Wednesday as a somber duty rooted in the Constitution, Ms. Pelosi risks appearing to politicize the matter if she withholds the charges for negotiating leverage.
And Mr. McConnell was entirely unmoved by Ms. Pelosis tactics, delivering a speech on Thursday evening in which he appeared barely able to contain his amusement at what he regarded as the speakers missteps.
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Agree. I think she is a captive of the leftwing fringe loons.
Because it's all covered with Schiff !
Try the veal, I'll be here all week.
...lawmakers who would prosecute the case against Mr. Trump until she was certain of a fair...
MR. TRUMP
MR???
Very uncouth of the NYT to let that stand. The level of respect afforded to another is an indicator of one’s own character, not another’s.
Being respectful toward someone isn’t an indication of your feelings toward that one. It is however, a clear indication of who YOU are. Your character.
I could be wrong but I think that would be the absolute worst thing the Dems could do to themselves.
Not if they already have a fraud scheme going - funded by Soros - to steal the Senate back in 2020.
Look at 2018 as a model. Bet on it.
One of the recollections I had of the Clinton Impeachment process was they had information developed that was not used or “disclosed”. Since no one in Washington can keep a salacious detail unspoken, IIRC there were 4 rape allegations in the boxes in the Ford Office Building only to be open after 50 years I believe. At the time, they believed his conviction was certain, and they were wrong of course.
DK
I’m betting that Trump has seen that coming since before he was elected.
Correct.
Just like oBOMMA care f***k-up Christmas for all.
There was no impeachment until a “Letter of Transmittal” detailing the Articles and the spelling out of the House prosecutors is received by the Senate.
Zero, zilch, nada.
This is a very, very dangerous time for Trump. Somebody might at one of his rallies or something try to make it “personal” if u know what I mean...
So who cares New York Slimes??? She can shove them up her butt sideways for all I care. The longer she has her temper tantrums, and makes unrealistic demands of the Senate, the more damage she does to her party.
ive postec this in a few threads but worth repeating:
um even bloomberg news is admitting that Trump is NOT impeached yet:
[[Trump Isnt Impeached Until the House Tells the Senate
According to the Constitution, impeachment is a process, not a vote.]]
Noah Feldman, a harvard law proff says the same thing
If the articles are not transmitted, Trump could legitimately say that he wasnt truly impeached at all, @NoahRFeldman writes. https://t.co/urzhneXlo8
I wonder how many times Pelosi has called Justice John Roberts to see what her next move should be.
After all this time she really thinks President Trump would do that? She is totally delusional.
LOL nancy is looking for a way out. She is one chicken shit democrat who tried to play above her ability. Now it is coming home to roost.
She needs to go home to her “shitty” city and enjoy the turds.
Today I read this from New Jersey Joe
McConnell should declare something like this:
Because the articles of impeachment have been made publicly available, the Senate deems them delivered the House has six hours for their managers to present themselves to participate in the process. Otherwise, we will begin without them, and no one will be allowed to join the process once weve started.
They can do this, but McConnell cannot deem it, they have to vote to change senate rules, which currently require formal transferrance and assignment of house managers....
I would call it a combination of Blackmail and Obstruction of justice. Republicans should all start shouting about Obstruction of justice.
I’d be happy with Mitch saying, “Okay, Nancy, you let us know when you want a trial, and we’ll see if we can work it into our schedule.” “No promises, though”.
However, I did see Nancy presiding over a meeting of the House. I did see her make some statement or other concerning articles of impeachment and I did see her strike her gavel a couple of times.
These parliamentary steps have significance. If the House passed articles of impeachment by the Constitutionally required majority that has great significance. If such resolutions as were passed constitute impeachment, then Donald Trump is impeached and the Senate then has the power to hold a trial.
If what happened in the House constitutes impeachment, then Nancy has no power to negate it. If what happened is not impeachment, then Nancy has no power to bring impeachment about.
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