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Cities are banning drive-thrus to improve Americans' health — but will it work?
msn ^ | 10/16/2019 | Erica Chayes Wida

Posted on 10/16/2019 6:25:46 PM PDT by Mount Athos

A growing number of local legislatures in cities across the country want to put an end to drive-thru windows.

In August, Minneapolis became the latest city to pass an ordinance banning the construction of new restaurant drive-thrus. Officials say the ban will help curb pollution, make the city more walkable and improve health problems pertaining to obesity. Other places that have enacted similar measures say they are aiming to combat traffic, cut carbon monoxide emissions and litter.

Thus far, cities in California, Missouri and New Jersey have implemented similar bans.

Still, many consumers are worried about one of their favorite conveniences being taken away. Some have pointed out how important drive-thrus are for customers who are disabled, the elderly and parents who may not easily be able to get their kids out of the car for a quick bite.

Other folks say they think the bans won't help decrease CO2 emissions because people may just leave their cars running while they wait for someone else to pick up the food.

There is, however, increasing support for the bans. Some say curbing access to even faster fast food may help aid in reversing urban obesity rates, while also helping to improve road traffic accidents.

According to the National Restaurant Association, 25% of restaurant visits in the U.S. occur at a drive-thru window.

One of the first municipalities to prohibit new and expanded drive-thrus was South Los Angeles in 2008. They also banned the construction of new stand-alone fast-food restaurants. In 2015, a non-profit research organization called RAND published a study examining the ban's impact on diet and obesity in L.A. County from 2007 to 2012. Its researchers found obesity actually increased among residents in the area.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California; US: Minnesota; US: Missouri; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: environazi; greenrawdeal; nannystatism
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To: Mount Athos
Most of the people in the drive thru are: People going to work, People coming home from work and People on their lunch hour.

If you keep them from the drive thru they are just going to order from Grub Hub. That will mean another car on the road and more pollution.

As usual they will make the "problem" they are trying to solve worse.

21 posted on 10/16/2019 6:48:40 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (A hero is a hero no matter what medal they give him. Likewise a schmuck is still a schmuck.)
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To: Mount Athos

“There is, however, increasing support for the bans.”

Less products sold, less tax income.
Raise tax on remaining product to make up the difference.
Even less product sold.
Raise taxes on remaining product sold.
Etc. Etc. Etc


22 posted on 10/16/2019 6:49:16 PM PDT by fproy2222 ( Good Common sense depends on who you are in common with.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

“But it be for de chillun’” /s


23 posted on 10/16/2019 6:49:44 PM PDT by lightman (Byzantine Troparia: The "praise choruses" of antiquity.)
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To: dp0622

Cities in Missouri, not the state.


24 posted on 10/16/2019 6:52:13 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: dp0622

No kidding. I was expecting it to be Columbia, home of Mizzou.
But it’s a St. Louis suburb, Creve Couer.


25 posted on 10/16/2019 6:52:58 PM PDT by GnuThere
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To: Mount Athos

The coffee drinkers waiting at Starbucks drive-thru at 7:00 a.m. are not going to be happy :(


26 posted on 10/16/2019 6:55:18 PM PDT by Freedom56v2
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To: BenLurkin
In August, Minneapolis became the latest city to pass an ordinance banning the construction of new restaurant drive-thrus.

In effect this legislation favors existing restaurants with drive through over new restaurants.

I can see the price of existing restaurants with a drive-thru in these cities sky rocketing over the price of a new restaurant simply so that a buyer will be grandfathered under the law (even in a less desirable location).

The law of unintended consequences is as powerful and as inescapable as the law of gravity.

27 posted on 10/16/2019 6:56:38 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit)
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To: miele man

Walgreens drive-thrus? Will they close?


28 posted on 10/16/2019 6:57:14 PM PDT by Freedom56v2
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To: Mount Athos

If they ban drive-through a, they should ban the rising trend of delivery service. Same things...traffic, exhaust, laziness.


29 posted on 10/16/2019 7:02:52 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs)
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To: Scrambler Bob

My cousin and wife were on trying to diet and she thought they should put their picture on the fridge door. My cousin said, “No, we need to put it on the door at Casey’s.”

Good point, I thought.


30 posted on 10/16/2019 7:03:40 PM PDT by taterjay
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To: Mount Athos
Sure. Those extra fifty steps someone will have to walk from their car to the counter and back are really gonna offset that 1100 calorie triple McBelchBurger and greasy fries, and that 500 calorie Coke to wash it down with. BWAH-HAHAHAHAHAHA............🤣🤣🤣🤣 And Planet Fool will buy into it.
31 posted on 10/16/2019 7:04:58 PM PDT by Viking2002
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To: Luke21

Folks from certain stats can’t keep saying “CITIES not the state”

Those cities do in fact belong to your state whether you want them to or not.

No one makes a distinction between staten island and manhattan when they talk about nyc.

though the 2 couldn’t be more different.

People from those states need to own up to the fact that the cities are INDEED as much a part of that state as anywhere else.


32 posted on 10/16/2019 7:16:54 PM PDT by dp0622 (Bad, bad company Till the day I die.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
No urban drive-throughs, more ambulance use / emergency room use.

33 posted on 10/16/2019 7:20:52 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Mount Athos

Imagine how much lower co2 emissions would be if they just outlawed pets. No more dogs barking at night either! Of course, sooner or latter, they will get around to us, too.


34 posted on 10/16/2019 7:22:40 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: Mount Athos
gonna get some pushback from this crowd...


35 posted on 10/16/2019 7:27:35 PM PDT by Chode (Send bachelors, and come heavily armed!)
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To: dp0622
I had to look that up. The city is Creve Coeur, Missouri Ann Wagner, R-Mo.

Yeah I don't get it. I wonder if it's fake news.

looking....
It seems they had a problem with the drive through being to close to other peoples property. (IE: fake news. had nothing to do with global warming)

http://www.newsmagazinenetwork.com/nn/2014112654439/drive-throughs-get-green-light/

36 posted on 10/16/2019 7:30:31 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: Mount Athos

How about the drive-thru bars in Louisiana?


37 posted on 10/16/2019 7:45:17 PM PDT by Southern Magnolia
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

If you keep them from the drive thru they are just going to order from Grub Hub.
**********
Vote Democrat, and they’ll ban that too.


38 posted on 10/16/2019 7:46:53 PM PDT by Socon-Econ (adical Islam,)
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To: Mount Athos

” people may just leave their cars running while they wait for someone else to pick up the food.”

now, that there, are the words of a smart person. Yes, people will leave the car running with the a/c on, while Dad goes in for the food, delivered to him by a robot, who doesn’t care if it stands at a counter or at a drive-thru window


39 posted on 10/16/2019 7:47:27 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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To: dp0622

As I understand it, Staten Island and each of the boroughs has its own borough president.

The above article though said “South Los Angeles” - I was unaware that a portion of a city (other than one structured like NYC) could do that.

Although that’s generally a rather poor section of the city, no? Is it not like they have to worry about anyone opening a new drive-through, or restaurant of any kind?


40 posted on 10/16/2019 7:53:31 PM PDT by scrabblehack
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