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Trump's betrayal of the Kurds is a gift to Putin and Assad
CNN (Communist News Network) ^ | October 8, 2019 | Nick Paton Walsh, Elite Intelectual Journalist

Posted on 10/08/2019 9:58:59 AM PDT by Navy Patriot

President Trump has clearly been itching to leave Syria for months, once dubbing it nothing but "sand and death." As Trump himself was at pains to point out, he was elected on a promise to get out of "these ridiculous endless wars."

But the speed of his decision to withdraw US forces from northern Syria threatens to wreck almost every goal the US has in the Middle East just now.

Firstly, the sudden withdrawal of US forces -- designed to leave their erstwhile allies the Syrian Kurds as exposed to a Turkish advance as possible -- comes just as a regrouping by ISIS was taking shap

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Russia; Syria; US: Hawaii; War on Terror
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To: Navy Patriot
But the speed of his decision to withdraw US forces from northern Syria threatens to wreck almost every goal the US has in the Middle East just now.

If CNN really wants to engage in some basic journalism, perhaps they can start by listing what these “goals” are. The only goal I have seen over the last 30 years is the perpetual use of the U.S. military as a mercenary force for Sunni Muslims.

41 posted on 10/08/2019 10:41:09 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Knowledge makes a man unfit to be a slave." -- Frederick Douglass)
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To: DesertRhino

‘ISIS’ is just the more recent name for Zarqawi’s group al-Tawhid wal-Jihad [ a/k/a Tanzim Qaidat al-Jihad fi Bilad al-Rafidayn, a/k/a al-Qaeda in Iraq (AQI)], which was created in the 1990s and whose Syrian trained branch assassinated U.S. senior administrator of U.S. Agency for International Development Laurence Foley in 2002 Jordan before the Iraq war . ISIS was not ‘created’ by Bush, nor was it created by Obama, although Obama and the antiwar crowd insisted repeatedly that it was ‘unrelated’ to al Qaeda. The group later called ‘iSIS’ was also involved in the coordinated 1999 Millennium Plots, planned attacks on everything from LAX airport to Zarqawi’s particular target a hotel in Jordan used by Americans. Indeed, one of the reasons to go to war in Iraq, besides the fact that Iraq had never complied with the terms of the Gulf War cease fire in creating a complete declaration of what it had and what it destroyed, nor had it complied with the terms that it must return all Gulf War POWs...was that Iraq harbored the 1993 WTC bombmaker, harbored Abu Nidal and his organization, funded the terrorist group in the Philippines which attacked the US consulate and a bar frequented by US military , harbored the PFLP, was carrying out assassinations of dissidents in western countries, and harboring 2002 in its capital city of Baghdad Zarqawi’s group which later took the name ISIS.


42 posted on 10/08/2019 10:50:22 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: Navy Patriot

Sudden? He’s been saying for years...Told mattis almost a year ago to come up with a plan. They just never want to leave no matter what. Well guess what, it’s Trump’s decision, not the lifers.


43 posted on 10/08/2019 10:56:42 AM PDT by wiseprince
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To: Navy Patriot

Best response: So what? Putin and Assad are not the villains in this conflict. We are not back in the cold war anymore, with a powerful USSR and Assad’s cruel father stirring up trouble. Even Israel is dealing with Putin and managing to avoid conflict with Syria.


44 posted on 10/08/2019 10:57:37 AM PDT by Socon-Econ (adical Islam,)
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To: Navy Patriot; EQAndyBuzz

Stand down.

The media has this all wrong.

We closed down and left 4 observation posts, not “garrisons” as some have said.

They were in a DMZ along the Turkish border, east of the Euphrates. SAS and French troops ahve agreed to man 2 of the posts.

Turkey is not going to “invade” there and have agreed to honor the no-fly zone there.

Turkey doesn’t need another fight with the SDF/Kurds. They are very busy with Assad’s SAA W of the Euphrates in Manbij, etc.

At some point we have to let the indigenous forces and politicians settle Syria for themselves. Turkey used to have borders farther south and there are a lot of Turkic peoples there.


45 posted on 10/08/2019 10:58:01 AM PDT by gandalftb
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To: Navy Patriot

How about they do a few street interview and ask people to name 5 cities in Syria and the top 3 issues that concern the local population. The answers will tell you how much interest their is with keeping Anwar going in Syria


46 posted on 10/08/2019 10:59:15 AM PDT by wiseprince
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To: piasa

Wrong. That lineage is only the barest of threads. We switched sides in the war on terror in Libya. Syrian rebels were initially Al Qeida in Syria.

It has gone through numerous name changes to sheep dip who created and funded it. Al nusra, FSA, ISIS, etc.
All the same.... and back and forth. Assad kept them in check until we backed them up and tried to depose him.

US Government intel types are funny. They make me laugh. Still claiming they had nothing to do with it. It was a US Govt State Dept grant that paid for the Toyota fleet LOL


47 posted on 10/08/2019 10:59:24 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: Navy Patriot

Because CNN cares so much.


48 posted on 10/08/2019 11:03:14 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: Navy Patriot

I understand the US forces have developed the Kurds into a fine-tuned fighting force with all the weaponry they need, plenty of ammunition which the US will continue supplying and everything needed except for an air force - antiaircraft weapons, yes!

They should be able to take care of themselves considering the rest of the President’s plan for the region.


49 posted on 10/08/2019 11:04:35 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said theoal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: jmaroneps37

said elsewhere, but these people care about more about Turkey-Syria border than they do our own southern border


50 posted on 10/08/2019 11:04:48 AM PDT by gogulls (frequent lurker since 2000 recount)
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To: montag813

That was not stability. Hussein had attacked the Kurds with gas, Iran, Kuwait, Saudi Arabie, and Israel.

He was not adhering to the terms of the cease-fire at the end of the first Iraq War.

He was also killing his people at will, and his sons were raping and pillaging everything in sight.

He was moving troops up to foreign borders despite restrictions. He was targeting our aircraft in the area.

Calling Iraq stable under him is a massive stretch of the imagination.


51 posted on 10/08/2019 11:08:27 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (This space for rent.)
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To: Navy Patriot

I’m actually surprised the media hasn’t brought up the Nixon connection yet. Nixon got us out of Vietnam, Trump got us out of Syria.


52 posted on 10/08/2019 11:19:01 AM PDT by KobraKai
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To: elpadre

Nashville has a very large Kurdish population. They are spreading their muslim culture. Don’t know why they don’t return to their own country and make it better.


53 posted on 10/08/2019 11:19:34 AM PDT by NewCenturions
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To: RinaseaofDs

Amen/

Maybe Trump learned this self defense method from President Reagan.


54 posted on 10/08/2019 11:20:24 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (The line that separated satire, Democrats and Stupidity has vanished. (thanks to jonascord)!)
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To: Navy Patriot

“Speed of the decision”???? Turks have been fighting Kurds centuries. We shouldn’t be in other people’s wars, especially when they have gone on this long. It means we have to sit there forever. No more Berlin Walls.


55 posted on 10/08/2019 11:27:29 AM PDT by Titus-Maximus (The trouble with socialism is that you soon run out of other people's zoo animals to eat.)
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To: Navy Patriot
How many troops did the Commander in Chief ‘withdraw’? Let these that promote war, gear up and go join the war. With all of American blood and treasury spent in these God-forsaken hell holes, we the USA should be planting old glory and rule with an iron fist. But, no, Americans have elected pimps to rule over US and import these blood thirsty lunatics that now sit in our Congress.
56 posted on 10/08/2019 11:39:28 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Navy Patriot

Seeing how the pkk are communists I can understand CNN’s concern for their well being


57 posted on 10/08/2019 11:56:01 AM PDT by mrmeyer (You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. Robert Heinlein)
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To: NewCenturions

The Muslim’s Koran calls for them to what they are doing, contributing to the command to make the world Muslim. Christians and Jews are to be eliminated by any means. They can’t go home.

Everyone should get a Koran for their library and read it so as to see just what we are up against.


58 posted on 10/08/2019 12:05:38 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said theoal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Navy Patriot

We are not getting out of Syria. Look at this fuel requisition for our Iraqi bases:

https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=e7b21313e672333316a20f6a07503e23&tab=core&_cview=1

Click on SPE605-19-R-0212

That requisition also happens to include 19 bases in Syria.......


59 posted on 10/08/2019 12:06:33 PM PDT by gandalftb
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To: elpadre

“...Everyone should get a Koran for their library ....”

Agree! However these Koran’s were translated for the most part by those at least somewhat sympathetic to the culture. Think T.E. Lawrence & other UK “Arabists”, so its tone has been “softened” for western sensibilities.


60 posted on 10/08/2019 12:09:06 PM PDT by Reily
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