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Oregon set to change the way it awards Electoral College votes [COMPACT]
The Oregonian ^ | June 6, 2019 | Chris Lehman

Posted on 06/06/2019 12:15:20 PM PDT by nwrep

SALEM – Oregon is close to becoming the 15th state to signal that it will award its Electoral College votes to the presidential candidate who receives the most votes nationwide.

On a 37-22 party line vote, the Democratic majority in the Oregon House sent Senate Bill 870 to the desk of Democratic Gov. Kate Brown, who has indicated her support.

Instead, said Rep. Allisa Keny-Guyer, D-Portland, the compact would make Oregon more relevant during presidential campaigns. “The Republican presidential candidates write Oregon totally off, and the Democratic candidates take Oregon for granted,” she said. “So we are just relegated to being a spectator state.”


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: 2020election; allisakenyguyer; election; election2020; electoralcollege; faithlesselectors; howardschultz; katebrown; nationalpopularvote; npv; oregon; portland; senatebill870; starbucks
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To: doragsda

You’re right – there is no formal construct called the “national popular vote”… The best that these compact States might do to pass muster is by saying that the total popular votes of all compact states is the standard, however even this could be problematic under the equal protection rules.


81 posted on 06/06/2019 3:41:31 PM PDT by mikrofon (D-Day +75 BUMP)
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To: doragsda; nwrep; thesharkboy
"By basing the award of their electoral votes on the voting in other states (which have varying degrees of standards in their election processes) this likely violates the equal protection clause. ... This is no certified national popular vote, it is a construct of the media which performs a summation of state popular votes on election night in order to have something to report."

This is a great point. The federal Secretary of State does not certify vote totals, like the state level Secretaries of State do.

Since Oregon is (proposing) to award their E.C. votes based on other states vote totals, they are like violating either the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment, or Article 1, Section 10. Or both.

82 posted on 06/06/2019 4:28:00 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: nwrep

This BS needs to go to the supreme court now. How does that happen? Does a person in that State have to file to have standing?


83 posted on 06/06/2019 4:28:56 PM PDT by eartick (Stupidity is expecting the government that broke itself to go out and fix itself. Texan for TEXIT!)
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To: rhombus10

That’s exactly my point.


84 posted on 06/06/2019 4:54:37 PM PDT by Mr.Unique (The government, by its very nature, cannot give except what it first takes.)
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To: morphing libertarian

...i don’t see how trump can win the popular vote,.
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One of the points being agreed to in the trade talks with Mexico is the deportation of illegal entrants already present.

Also, the progs, as is their wont, are tightening up control within their own party by advocating the purge of any registered D who is pro-life.

Less illegals, fewer registered citizen Ds whose vote can be cast by the Party and, perhaps, Ds who will vote R.

Ds who sit it out will, of course, have their votes cast by the Party, so there is that.

I simply cannot see how a candidate who supports the marginalization (and worse) of all white males and the eventual political irrelevancy of whites as a race, can attract the number of voters needed, even with fraud.

Addendum: Trump said at a recent press conference that efforts were underway ‘as much as possible’ to use paper ballots. Those can be forged, too, but they are more time-consuming to produce and need more co-ordination to be inserted into the ballot boxes.

I’m hoping that election observation will be increased.

And, of course, there is the now-famous Trump curse to consider. It is usually some variant of “careful what you wish for.”


85 posted on 06/06/2019 5:53:38 PM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: eartick

This is a complicated issue, and according to the Wikipedia article which cites several sources, including lawyers on both sides, the standing is not obvious. Some believe only presidential candidates will have standing...


86 posted on 06/06/2019 5:55:29 PM PDT by nwrep
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To: goodnesswins

I thought so.

What happened? Calis moved up, didn’t they?


87 posted on 06/06/2019 6:12:31 PM PDT by Maris Crane
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To: hardspunned

I know that is frustrating, but with all the evil, destructive people who were waiting for him in DC., I just
don’t know how I would have handled THAT surprise.

Let’s hope all that nonsense is over, but listening to that witch Pelosi saying she “wants him in jail” it might take some getting around to important things.

I really HATE that woman.


88 posted on 06/06/2019 6:16:30 PM PDT by Maris Crane
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To: Maris Crane

Yup...probably the biggest reason...and school indoctrination


89 posted on 06/06/2019 7:31:55 PM PDT by goodnesswins (White Privilege EQUALS Self Control & working 50-80 hrs/wk for 40 years!)
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To: thoughtomator

Historically, has the incumbent who won the general election secured the popular vote as well as the electoral vote?


90 posted on 06/06/2019 8:07:38 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Wonka

I agree bump.


91 posted on 06/06/2019 8:08:26 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: nwrep

This ridiculous “compact” will not go into effect unless they have a total of states with at least 270 electoral votes.

They’re at about 180 - 190 and are not expected to reach 270 by November 2020.


92 posted on 06/06/2019 8:46:36 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (President Trump IS The Resistance!)
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To: nwrep; goodnesswins; PROCON; VeryFRank; Clinging Bitterly; Rio; aimhigh; Hieronymus; bray; ...

If you would like more information about what's happening in Oregon, please FReepmail me.

93 posted on 06/06/2019 10:43:40 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Maris Crane

We are very aware of what the dimocrats are trying to do.


94 posted on 06/06/2019 10:45:53 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Vaquero

I had this conversation with an anti-Trumper on FB. I don’t think she knows how the EC works.


95 posted on 06/06/2019 11:39:42 PM PDT by gundog ( Hail to the Chief, bitches!)
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To: nwrep

The only way to change our electoral system is by broad agreement across political divides. That’s the way it’s done in civilized, ‘free’ countries.

In this case, one side of the political divide is attempting to overrule the other side, and the Constitution, via extra-constitutional measures. It’s not going to work, as it’s being done through force, and outside of the agreed upon mechanism of the amendment process.

That’s how you start a civil war.


96 posted on 06/07/2019 3:07:46 AM PDT by Windflier (Torches and pitchforks ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Adder
But the sweet irony if Trump wins the popular vote and all these too smart by half a-holes see their EC votes go to him? I’d pay for that video of their heads exploding.


But not so artistically pretty.

97 posted on 06/07/2019 8:30:28 AM PDT by MikelTackNailer (NRT, NewRome Tacitus, just don't call me late to dinner.)
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To: GOP Congress
I’m sure they could find TEEMS of lawyers who would instantly take it to court to allow California to renege on their end of the Compact, thus allowing the Democrat to win.

Even if that was unintentional I love how "teems" better illustrates the swarming of predatory parasites attacking a body when it stumbles.

98 posted on 06/07/2019 9:23:06 AM PDT by MikelTackNailer (NRT, NewRome Tacitus, just don't call me late to dinner.)
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To: nwrep
Next step - put up a moderate Republican as a 3rd party candidate with no chance to win, but to siphon enough of the popular vote away from Trump.

As it is, all I've seen so far is states that Trump likely isn't going to win in 2020, even against the worst candidate the DEMs could possibly prop up. Many parts of this country are that far gone.

99 posted on 06/07/2019 9:38:06 AM PDT by CatOwner
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To: GOP Congress

I wonder. The DEMs always think long-term, so they might let Trump win under such a scenario with the belief that it would legitimize a popular vote election going forward. That’s the ultimate goal.


100 posted on 06/07/2019 9:41:40 AM PDT by CatOwner
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