Posted on 05/26/2019 4:29:22 AM PDT by Oscar in Batangas
Edward Snowden said the Justice Department declared "war" on journalism after accusing WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange of violating the Espionage Act.
Federal prosecutors filed a new 18-count indictment against Assange on Thursday, adding 17 counts to the single count that was unsealed in early April, alleging he unlawfully received and leaked information related to national defense.
Snowden reacted on Twitter. "The Department of Justice just declared war—€ not on Wikileaks, but on journalism itself. This is no longer about Julian Assange: This case will decide the future of media." he said.
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Understand that the main crime committed by Snowden is that he exposed what our government was doing to us WHILE OBAMA WAS PRESIDENT. If he’d done this under Bush II he’d be lauded by the left, but he exposed that Obama himself was part of the problem.
I don’t see why anyone who believes in traditional American values would be angry with Snowden; he may have compromised intelligence assets, but if they were representing our elites were they really “ours”?
We are a free people...well, uh, ur...we're supposed to be in theory. This sort of deep state stuff being used against innocent Americans is the worse type of tyranny.
You’re confusing the indictments here. What you’re describing was the original indictment that was announced a few weeks ago. These are different charges. And since these charges will almost certainly not hold up in court, I really have to wonder what the DOJ’s angle is here.
Could it have something to do with the European Convention on Extradition?
Brennan, with Obama’s nod, went after Adm Rogers who he wanted to see fired. Obama “I get my intel from what I read in the newspapers “ didn’t care what Brennan did or planned to do.
Snowden went after exposing the NSA to frame a context by which Adm Rogers would be decapitated.
Snowden needs to see the electric chair. But the deep state media have fabricated a fable that he’s some sort of counterculture hero.
The way to prove Wikileaks did not collaborate with the Russians is to put them on trial and be aquitted.
The DNC insider that leaked will then be revealed free of the russia taint
DOJ wants Snowden in the USA to testify the DNC email exposure was from a leak, not a hack.
It’s a tug of war for extradition.
I admit, I come at it with the perspective of neutering this shadow gubbamint so it cannot be weaponized against Americans.
Thanx for your insight. Gives me pause.
That’s what this platform is for, getting at the truth. My info comes from some very sharp players. I just paint by numbers.
Like Assange, Snowden’s crime was exposing what our government was doing to us.
NSA has recorded all electronic emissions worldwide since after WWII ended. There were books written about all that was in the public domain while Eddy Snowjob was playing in his crib.
He was a traitor of the first order. He freely gave the Chinese and later the Russian and AQ everything he had stolen: Methods and Means on how NSA and the Military collect data and how it is used as well as the various codes that were broken by NSA. The assets he exposed were either rapidly withdrawn or were buried.
His betrayal was in the same league as the Rosenburgs, Aldrich Ames, Alger Hiss, Robert Hanssen, Whittaker Chambers and so on.
If that level of betrayal makes him a hero to anyone they need to look again. He’s Eddy Snowjob because that is how the media chose to portray him by revealing things which the media knew full well were in the public domain, but most Americans had never heard, and would be roused to rise in his defense. Too many fell for the camouflage.
Wikileaks had no measurable effect on the election according to many who have looked into it. Hillary lost because she failed to campaign where she need to and because she made an incorrect assumption about winning the Electoral Colege.
“” I come at it with the perspective of neutering this shadow gubbamint so it cannot be weaponized against Americans. “”
That was my attitude as well, but you expressed it better.
I was always upset at how the 4th amendment was dispatched so casually to the garbage disposer with the Post-9/11 security attitude.
More than once, FReepers quoted the Founders who said in effect: if you’re willing to trade freedom for security, you’ll end up with neither
Has TSA EVER thwarted a terrorist attack? If they have, they “probably can’t talk about it because of National Security”.
(Must be nice to be able to hide behind that quote)
Lacking evidence to the contrary I’m willing to bet that in the terrorism deterrence ‘game’ the score is Citizens 20, TSA 1
1. Your scenario would have made sense with the original indictment. It was a single count that wouldn’t result in much punishment.
2. The second set of indictments makes it HARDER to extradite Assange to the U.S. because he’s now facing 150+ years in prison and foreign courts will have to consider an “excessive punishment” angle. So he now has legal grounds to fight extradition even from countries that would otherwise be obligated to hand him over to the U.S. under the terms of an extradition treaty.
Foreign courts have little say now on extraditing JA to the USA.
UK courts are now subject to Downing ST directive that NATO treaty requires priority that spies be extradited. JA is now categorized as a spy thanks to DOJ charges. UK courts will give him up.
It’s a chess game. Trump’s team is winning.
Why is Snowden granted asylum by Putin? Russia doesn’t care a twit about Snowden as a person, in fact, they are ready to off him. They only want Snowden for one thing, his knowledge of American intel, of NSA methods, procedures. As soon as the international diplomacy optics allow for it, Putin will have Russia spit Snowden out.
Snowden is an enormous traitor, needs to see the electric chair, with the American public viewing his last breath.
Color me skeptical.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
yes, but allegiances shift quickly you see, The Donald is attending a state dinner with QE II, and the deep state has had its hands slapped over Brexit with May gone and a Trump supporter in line for PM ?
You bet things have changed since.
Assange will sing like a canary, albeit a farting one.
Hopefully Asange gets his freedom sooner rather than later. I’m sure they are trying to offer him a deal to blame the Russians for the DNC “hack” instead of its actual source.
Winston Churchill understood this too, even though the surveillance state and enabling technology didn't exist when he made this speech:
"...Hitler knows that he will have to break us in this Island or lose the war. If we can stand up to him, all Europe may be free and the life of the world may move forward into broad, sunlit uplands. But if we fail, then the whole world, including the United States, including all that we have known and cared for, will sink into the abyss of a new Dark Age made more sinister, and perhaps more protracted, by the lights of perverted science..."
The lights of "perverted science" can mean many things, but it is evident that unlimited surveillance and the usage of that to tyrannize people and keep them in line is completely in line with totalitarianism in all of its forms.
I fully accept that every single email I send, every post I make, every website I visit, every intersection with cameras my car passes through, every toll road I take, every purchase I make, and every airline flight I fly on is categorized and filed in some way.
That information may never be used against me by my own government.
But as we have seen, adequate protections are not in place to ensure that. The Left has ensured they were deliberately bypassed and perverted to spy on an opposing political presidential campaign. That is profoundly disturbing to me.
That is what we are up against. People like you and I understand the scope, and hopefully, we understand the inherent threat.
+ 100
>>Is there a knock on your door yet? They are reading what you are writing as you are writing it.
I have seen posts (comments in threads) immediately appear in google searches.
Apparently it isn’t as true “today”. Maybe it’ll return as a result within the hour or day.
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