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Mattis ignored orders from Trump, White House on North Korea, Iran: report
The Hill ^ | 4/29/2019 | eileen mitchell

Posted on 04/29/2019 10:41:26 PM PDT by bitt

Former Defense Secretary James Mattis declined to carry out orders from President Trump or otherwise limited his options in various attempts to prevent tensions with North Korea, Iran and Syria from escalating, The New Yorker reported Monday, the latest account of Trump’s own officials trying to check his worst instincts.

"The president thinks out loud. Do you treat it like an order? Or do you treat it as part of a longer conversation? We treated it as part of a longer conversation," a former senior national security official told The New Yorker.

"We prevented a lot of bad things from happening."

In 2017, following a series of North Korean ballistic missile tests, Trump ordered the Pentagon to begin removing the spouses and children of military personnel from South Korea, where the U.S. military has a base. An administration official told the magazine that "Mattis just ignored" the order.

In another instance in the fall of 2017, as White House officials were planning a private meeting at Camp David to develop military options for a possible conflict with North Korea, Mattis allegedly stopped the gathering from happening. He ignored a request from then-national security adviser H.R. McMaster to send officers and planners, according to a former senior administration official.

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1 posted on 04/29/2019 10:41:26 PM PDT by bitt
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To: Whenifhow; null and void; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; kalee; Kale; 2ndDivisionVet; azishot; ...

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2 posted on 04/29/2019 10:41:43 PM PDT by bitt (The pain IS coming!!!)
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To: bitt

Hard to believe Trump had no trouble with treason.

Hard to believe there’s no slant to the article.

I dunno.


3 posted on 04/29/2019 10:48:10 PM PDT by dp0622 (The Left should know if.. Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR)
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To: bitt

Giving the president advice is one thing.

Disobeying a direct order is a punishable offense.

For a military man running to the media and undermining your Commander In Chief with confidential insider information is a disgrace.

Lock ‘em up.

If they want to run things they should run for office.


4 posted on 04/29/2019 10:49:35 PM PDT by Vlad The Inhaler (In the 20th Century Britain fell from world superpower to just another backwater muslim colony)
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To: bitt

Mattis has the right to ignore the president’s orders. And the president has the right to fire him.


5 posted on 04/29/2019 10:51:48 PM PDT by Prince Caspian
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To: Prince Caspian

what is the basis for his right to ignore orders?


6 posted on 04/29/2019 10:53:13 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Use Comey's Report; Indict Hillary now; build Kate's wall. --- Proud Smelly Walmart Deplorable)
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To: bitt

Seems Mad Dog is reall a miniature poodle.


7 posted on 04/29/2019 10:53:33 PM PDT by McGavin999 (Border security without a wall is like having a Ring doorbell without a doorw)
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To: bitt
Mattis just ignored" the order.

Oh, so he admits THAT was an order.

Can't he still be court martialed?

Do you treat it like an order? Or do you treat it as part of a longer conversation?
Well when you're not trying to be an asshole to your President...You ask.
8 posted on 04/29/2019 10:54:38 PM PDT by lewislynn
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The Three Amigos

Iran's President Hassan Rouhani, Russia's Vladimir Putin and Turkey's Tayyip Erdogan meet in Sochi, Russia November 22, 2017. (photo credit: SPUTNIK/MIKHAIL METZEL/KREMLIN VIA REUTERS)

Column One: Portents of quagmires in Syria

9 posted on 04/29/2019 10:59:38 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: bitt

Mattis sucked. Just a big talker.


10 posted on 04/29/2019 11:00:29 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: Prince Caspian

No, he does not possess a right to ignore orders. He has a DUTY to follow them or resign.


11 posted on 04/29/2019 11:02:09 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: bitt

Remember when Bob Woodward wrote that Mattis said Trump had the understanding of a 5th or 6th grader?


12 posted on 04/29/2019 11:09:45 PM PDT by KittyKares (Drain the Swamp)
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To: DesertRhino

yes


13 posted on 04/29/2019 11:36:56 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: DesertRhino
Thats right.

Just ask LTC Terry Lakin.

14 posted on 04/29/2019 11:47:25 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: bitt
"The president thinks out loud. Do you treat it like an order? Or do you treat it as part of a longer conversation? We treated it as part of a longer conversation,"

was it an order? Or is the press continuing with make Trump look bad. I think the later.
15 posted on 04/29/2019 11:47:27 PM PDT by the_daug
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To: bitt

I fail to see how removing military families from a war zone, or asking military planners to attend a meeting, could be viewed as Trump’s “worst instincts”. Those actions sound completely reasonable.


16 posted on 04/29/2019 11:50:44 PM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant.)
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To: bitt

Why is he coming out with this now? Was he in on efforts to overthrow the election as part of a 25th Amendment cabinet vote? Is he afraid that the Trump admin has a record of that and that is going to come out?


17 posted on 04/29/2019 11:54:18 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: bitt

In another instance in the fall of 2017, as White House officials were planning a private meeting at Camp David to develop military options for a possible conflict with North Korea, Mattis allegedly stopped the gathering from happening.

Obstructing an elected President from information critical
to this nation’s foreign policy should be criminal!!!


18 posted on 04/30/2019 12:00:17 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: bitt

Mattis also ignored orders on trannies.

I don’t think much of mattis. It is good that he and tillerson are both gone. They were too full of themselves to take orders from President Trump.


19 posted on 04/30/2019 12:01:18 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just hava few days that don't suck.)
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To: DesertRhino

Ditto


20 posted on 04/30/2019 12:07:28 AM PDT by DaveArk
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