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Hurricane Irma Live Thread
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Posted on 09/04/2017 2:02:19 PM PDT by NautiNurse

While thoughts and prayers are with our Texas FRiends and neighbors, we are at the peak of the Atlantic Tropical Storm season. Hurricane Irma continues its trek from Cape Verde across the pond and toward the Hebert Box (see below). People with interests in the Southeastern U.S. and Gulf of Mexico should be alert to the forecast path updates for this powerful storm. It is important to note that the average NHC track errors are about 175 and 225 statute miles at days 4 and 5, respectively.

Hurricane Irma originally had a small wind field. In the past 24 hours, however, the wind field has expanded with hurriance force winds up to 40 miles from the center, and tropical storm force winds up to 140 miles from the storm center.

FL Governor Rick Scott reminds Floridians: Families should take time today to make sure you have a disaster plan and fully-stocked Disaster Supply Kit. Florida residents from West Palm Beach to Tampa Bay are heeding the alert. Store shelves are emptying of bottled water.


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KEYWORDS: cat6; category6; florida; hurricane; hurricaneirma; irma; livehurricaneirma; nautinurse; prepper; preppers; puertorico; virginislands
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To: NautiNurse

I thought of that too.


1,961 posted on 09/07/2017 3:55:45 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (WINNING! !!)
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To: kingu

Sheriff Judd lives and breaths the Constitution and doesn’t violate anyone’s rights. He also has very well trained officers that are kind and considerate that will shoot you in the face if you need kill’n. I work with A.R.E.S. as a shelter operator in his county and he has armed officers in each one. If you need shelter and you are wanted or a sexual offender, his officers will give you shelter somewhere else. Shelters aren’t sanctuaries.


1,962 posted on 09/07/2017 3:59:26 AM PDT by DocRock (And now is the time to fight! Peter Muhlenberg)
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To: NautiNurse; All

FEMA law was enacted after katrina...ALL HOTELS, MOTELS MUST ACCEPT PETS IF THERE IS HURRICANE AND YOU ARE EVACUATING.

I am having hard time posting that info..maybe someone can post the actual notice.


1,963 posted on 09/07/2017 4:01:06 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (WINNING! !!)
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To: kingu

Are you implying that public shelters should just let anybody in? Whether or not they have arrest warrants pending or are illegal aliens? That sounds rather cruel, allowing criminals to mingle with law-abiding citizens.


1,964 posted on 09/07/2017 4:03:19 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: abb; abbi_normal_2; aberaussie; abner; AbsoluteGrace; alancarp; Alas Babylon!; Alia; ...
SUMMARY OF 500 AM AST Information
----------------------------------------------
Location...20.0N 68.3W
About 95 MI...N of Punta Cana Dominican Republic About 210 MI...ESE of Grand Turk Island
Maximum Sustained Winds...180 MPH
Present Movement...WNW OR 290 DEGREES AT 17 MPH
Minimum Central Pressure...921 MB...27.20 Inches

Hurricane-force winds extend outward up to 50 miles from
the center and tropical-storm-force winds extend outward up to 185
miles.


On/Off Hurricane List Mash Here-->

1,965 posted on 09/07/2017 4:05:13 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Tear down the Mexican Carrier plant and use the materials to build the wall)
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To: 867V309; Eric Pode of Croydon

Nobody is crying wolf.

This is a powerful hurricane that is going to do a lot of damage where ever it lands.

The problem is trying to figure out just where in a system that changes by the hour.

Weather is a dynamic system, not a static one. It’s like trying to shoot as a moving target.


1,966 posted on 09/07/2017 4:15:45 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
I don't know that the law applies to hotels. (PETS) Act (42 U.S.C.A. § 5196a-d (2006))

Excerpts:

(2) The Director may make financial contributions, on the basis of programs or
projects approved by the Director, to the States and local authorities for
animal emergency preparedness purposes, including the procurement,
construction, leasing, or renovating of emergency shelter facilities and
materials that will accommodate people with pets and service animals.
[snip]

(g) Standards for State and Local Emergency Preparedness Operational Plans - In
approving standards for State and local emergency preparedness operational plans
pursuant to subsection (b)(3), the Director shall ensure that such plans take into
account the needs of individuals with household pets and service animals prior to,
during, and following a major disaster or emergency.
[snip]

Sec. 536.
The Department of Homeland Security shall, in approving standards for State and
local emergency preparedness operational plans under section 613(b)(3) of the Robert
T. Stafford Disaster and Emergency Assistance Act (42 U.S.C. 5196b(b)(3)), account
for the needs of individuals with household pets and service animals before, during,
and following a major disaster or emergency: Provided, That Federal agencies may
provide assistance as described in section 403(a) of the Robert T. Stafford Disaster
and Emergency Assistance Act (42 U.S.C. 5170b(a)) to carry out plans described in
the previous proviso.


1,967 posted on 09/07/2017 4:19:41 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Tear down the Mexican Carrier plant and use the materials to build the wall)
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To: SkyPilot

Nice graphic—thank you for posting. Gives a lot of perspectives.


1,968 posted on 09/07/2017 4:21:23 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Tear down the Mexican Carrier plant and use the materials to build the wall)
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To: Peter ODonnell

You’re right. Most of our damage is in the form of downed trees and power lines. I’m at work and in business as of 6:00 AM this morning.


1,969 posted on 09/07/2017 4:25:11 AM PDT by cll (Serviam!)
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To: snarkpup

I can’t give you the hydrodynamics and hydrophysics. Suffice to say that a storm consistently moving at the moderate pace of Irma will continually draw warm water (as opposed to a stalled storm) as long as it is available, and a large storm draws its energy from a wider area.


1,970 posted on 09/07/2017 4:29:49 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Tear down the Mexican Carrier plant and use the materials to build the wall)
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To: metmom; kingu
They should know who is at their shelters and if you don't like the thought of having an active arrest warrant on you or being a sexual offender or predator, DON'T DO THE CRIME.

I'm thinking the police statement was more intended to keep criminals away from the shelters ("Don't go there, police will be there, you WILL be arrested").

As a matter of routine, they will be logging the identities of ALL people who enter the shelter, more to be able to respond to queries from frantic relatives/friends if the people's residences are destroyed by the storm.

1,971 posted on 09/07/2017 4:29:49 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big governent is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: cll
I’m at work and in business as of 6:00 AM this morning.

Fabulous news! I take it this means the crashing glass sound was not your car windshield yesterday.

1,972 posted on 09/07/2017 4:31:27 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Tear down the Mexican Carrier plant and use the materials to build the wall)
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To: PapaBear3625

They OUGHT to know who is in their shelters.

For a lot of reasons.


1,973 posted on 09/07/2017 4:38:39 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: dirtboy

Wow, thanks. So that was actually 50+ miles, the eye from San Juan. Phew. (But it was still scary).


1,974 posted on 09/07/2017 4:39:22 AM PDT by cll (Serviam!)
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To: NautiNurse
WNW OR 290 DEGREES AT 17 MPH

The increase of the forwarding speed is a bit concerning. Faster this 'cane goes in the western direction, the Gulf side of Florida (And a definite Florida hit) is exposed (Missing some steering ridges to push east) when the turn N happens.
1,975 posted on 09/07/2017 4:40:18 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: TADSLOS

“Man, that is just nasty. PR dodged a cannon round”.

You bet we did. I’ve never prayed so much in my life. Both in pleading for mercy before and in thanks afterward!


1,976 posted on 09/07/2017 4:40:51 AM PDT by cll (Serviam!)
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To: PapaBear3625

I think the statement must have been because the shelters must have a bad reputation as being crime-ridden.

But it would seem as if they should want all criminals and sex offenders to show up and then be identified: a) so they have a place to go, b) so the criminals can be identified and taken for holding at the police headquarters or county jail, and c) so that any registered sex offenders can be separated in other shelter facilities.

Instead, it sounds like a warning for criminals on the lam to stay on the lam.


1,977 posted on 09/07/2017 4:43:51 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: DocRock

There are also people who might be reluctant to use shelters because they’re concerned about being preyed upon. I think the sheriff just relieved some of that concern and now more folks will be inclined to use the shelters.

Wish we could clone this guy.


1,978 posted on 09/07/2017 4:44:19 AM PDT by mewzilla (Was Obama surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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To: rollo tomasi
The increase in forward speed was previously anticipated. This was illustrated in the previous forecast tracks (cone of doom) with a wider gap between points in archived tracks.

Emphasis--below is a historic track from Tuesday, Sept. 6. Note the increased distance between Thurs 8AM and Fri 8AM forecast points, compared to tighter Tues-Wed track points:


1,979 posted on 09/07/2017 4:53:04 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Tear down the Mexican Carrier plant and use the materials to build the wall)
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To: Guenevere

Prayers up, dear Guennie.

We just went through same, with Harvey.

Our biggest fear was rising water vs powerful winds.

Please keep us posted on your whereabouts.


1,980 posted on 09/07/2017 4:55:26 AM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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