Posted on 09/01/2017 7:34:22 AM PDT by BobNative
A nurse says she was assaulted and illegally arrested by a Salt Lake City police detective for following a hospital policy that does not allow blood draws from unconscious patients.
Footage from University Hospital and officer body cameras shows Detective Jeff Payne and nurse Alex Wubbels in a standoff over whether the policeman should be allowed to get a blood sample from a patient who had been injured in a July 26 collision in northern Utah that left another driver dead.
Wubbels says blood cannot be taken from an unconscious patient unless the patient is under arrest, unless there is a warrant allowing the draw or unless the patient consents. The detective acknowledges in the footage that none of those requirements is in place, but he insists that he has the authority to obtain the draw, according to the footage.
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That nurse just won the lotto and Detective Jeff Payne needs to be fired, imprisoned and face a civil suit as well based on the details provided in the text and the video. Now waiting for the official response aka the whole story, spin or not.
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The nurse lost her cool only after the cop grabbed at her to arrest her.
In my opinion, the woman was in a no-win situation. If she had complied with the cop’s request, she could have been fired for violating hospital policy, been subject to a lawsuit, even potentially lost her license to practice. If she didn’t comply, she was getting arrested.
She was very calm and professional up until the point the cop put his hands on her to arrest her, and that’s when she lost it.
Also, consider this: the cop wasn’t telling her to stand aside or get out of his way so he, as an agent of the state, could do something. He was attempting to force her to do something. He was trying to compel her to draw blood from an unconscious patient.
The ‘law’ they cited as their ‘authority’ was overturned by the SCOTUS in 2007, TEN YEARS AGO!......................
The cop was out of control, and acted beyond his authority. Glad for the video, as it will be used in the court case against him. Hope the nurse wins big and this power-mad cop gets slapped down (and I am pro-cop)...
Another power mad cop.
They’re everywhere and regular cops do nothing about it.
Excellent comment. Thanks for posting. I’m understanding the majority POV here now.
Yes, it was ONE cop. One.
And the rest can either repudiate his actions, or be viewed RIGHTLY as being no different from him.
What conclusions can we draw from this about the "regular" cops?
> It was ONE cop,one. <
if you take a look at the video, there are other cops (in blue uniforms) standing around. None of them made any attempt to defuse the situation once the first cop exploded. Perhaps they couldn’t. Nevertheless, they were there. And none of them did the right thing.
all animals are equal
some animals are more equal than others
The concept and practice of grabbing evidence while you can, just to be sure, and nobody's the wiser if you don't use it, is the heart of the NSA dragnet of cell phone records and a big middle finger to the Fourth Amendment.
He did not "arrest" her. He committed aggravated assault and kidnapping, under color of law. In any decent society she or a bystander would be fully justified in employing lethal force in her defense.
Only if you like the idea of living in a police state. Holy smokes... what have some people turned into around here???
You can clearly see her looking around at the other cops, as if hoping one of them will intervene to help her.
Now any time any cop walks into that hospital, everyone who works there is going to remember them arresting that nurse for just doing her job.
“But that’s something a truck driver knows going into the job. It’s implied consent. For everyone else, the Fourth Amendment applies.”
The patient is a commercial truck driver who was operating a semi truck when the accident occurred. The other driver died. The situation required that a blood test be taken. The nurse refused to allow the blood test and was arrested. She resisted arrest.
> Thanks for posting. I’m understanding the majority POV here now. <
You’re welcome. And don’t feel too bad about the gentle drubbing you’re getting here. Commenting without knowing all the facts is a time-honored tradition here at Free Republic. We all have done it. Me probably more than most.
And it does make for, shall we say, more interesting thread conversations.
Thanks for that. I knew that at one time, but had forgotten it.
The question is, did the officer relay that information to the nurse. If not, then the nurse is still in the right, and officer is still in the wrong.
You should watch the video. That police office is going to enjoy his next career as a school crossing guard.
“Bad cops” are not a systematic plague, but there are bad cops.
Usually. But in this case, it’s not a cop out there on his own pretending he “smelled marijuana”, or “thought the suspect was reaching for a gun”, or any of the usual dodges designed to be impossible to disprove either at the time or after the fact. Here we have the nurse explicitly telling him what’s ok and what’s not.
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