FOX Internal Poll Numbers -- Trump Up 3% Over Hillary With White Women

Fox News Poll | 10/14/2016 | OV

[OneVike]

FOX News released their Presidential poll numbers this morning, and they claim that Hillary beating Trump by 7%. However, their big news is how they have Trump losing big to women. Like the rest of the MSM, Fox is doing it's best to show how Trump hates women and they claim their poll numbers prove it.

We always hear how badly Trump is doing with women, and while they do admit that Trump is beating Hillary with men, the never tell us by how much. So I decided to look into the internal numbers of their poll to find out how much trump leads among men.

What I found astonished me.

The first flag was that they polled 45% Democrats and only 36% Republicans. As usual I expected as much. However, as I searched for their numbers on how much Trump was leading with men over Hillary I found this.

With white women Trump is defeating Hillary by 3 points.

However, nowhere in their methodology do they breakdown how many whites, blacks, or Hispanics they interviewed for their poll. Now If she is behind Trump with white women by 3 points, then the facts are that there are not enough minorities to give Hillary a win. That is why they are trying so hard, this late in the election, to move Trumps poll numbers down with women.

I did a screen shot of the portions of the poll internals that matter for my discussion. I offer both registered and likely voters.

For anyone wanting to look at their internal numbers and their methodology, here is the link to the poll numbers in pdf.




I leave the rest for you all to discuss.

[wardaddy]

The stats I quoted are for all white women. Here is the proof.....
Here’s the source

https://www.google.com/amp/www.newyorker.com/news/john-cassidy/whats-up-with-white-women-they-voted-for-romney-too/amp

Here’s the data

You don’t believe me? Here are some figures from this year’s exit poll, which the Edison Research company conducts for a consortium of media companies, and from previous ones. In 2004, Bush got fifty-five per cent of the white female vote, and Kerry got forty-four per cent—a “reverse gender gap” (one working in the G.O.P.’s favor) of eleven points. In 2008, McCain got fifty-three per cent of the white female vote, and Obama got forty-six per cent—a gap of seven points. Compared to four years earlier, the reverse gender gap in this demographic had decreased by four points, indicating that the Democrats were making progress in attracting the votes of white women. But this year, that trend turned around again. Far from narrowing further, the reverse gender gap among white women widened to fourteen points. Romney got fifty-six per cent of the white female vote; Obama got just forty-two per cent.

If Trump only has a three point lead with white women then it’s bad

Very bad

I personally don’t believe anything Fox does anymore

[nitrojiber]

Was wondering the same thing. Why do only white women count in the polling?

[rtwingxtremist]

Thx for the info.

I also have 200 pounds of German Shepherds. Great dogs but I gave up trying to walk both at the same time. Of course walking one at a time means there’s always 100 pounds of wailing-howling-left-behind German Shepherd.

Get well.

[grania]

I am AMAZED how many women are just looking for an excuse to vote for hillary, even though they know she's evil. Their delusional minds were pacified with stuff like Michelle, Obama, and LeBron (yeah, LeBron) expressing outrage that anyone would talk the way Trump did in that illegally recorded conversation. Presenting them with some Beyoncé lyrics, which those "outraged" by Trump's private speech all listen to and go to concerts of, really shakes them up.

FWIW, these women drive me nuts. They all act like it's a matter of virtue to pretend people don't sometimes talk colorfully in private, yet they sure do.

[LNV]

You’re not taking into account the fact that there is abundance evidence to suggest that there will be more white voters overall and fewer black voters than in 2012. 42% of a huge number is better than 55% of a smaller number.
This poll also greatly undersamples independents, who are about 40% of the electorate, which means that there are too many Dem white women and too few Independent white women in the sample, accounting for some if not all of the difference between 42% and 55%.

I know people are scared to death of the polls after 2012, but more recent data points support my thesis that this is NOT 2012. The polls were skewed 4 points toward the Dems in 2014, and Brexit polling was way off because they failed to to account for new voters. Those scenarios are more likely to play out this election than a reprise of 2012—Trump is not Romney and Hillary is not Obama.

[Fishtalk]

Heh, since we’re talking hoodlum dogs that you can dress up and can’t take out, got me a black German shorthair pointer and an all white American bulldog.

Got them on leashes taking to the kennel, a fancy place by the beach.

Like I say, couple of hoodlums. Holding onto leashes but they got things to smell, places to jump, objects to see. Before I know it I am wrapped like a mummy in leashes and have to scream for the help to come out and get me.

Hoodlums.

Other fancy dogs sitting up nice with proper owners while my two are sniffing the joint and causing mayhem.

Didn’t break any ribs but lost any pride I ever had.

[AuntB]

We should be out in force protesting the media in front of every affiliate in every city, handing out REAL news and facts! Until we counter this corrupt media as well as boycotting and exposing their advertisers. NOTHING else is going to do any good. We’ve known this for how many election cycles? Yet we keep ignoring it. The media is picking our presidents and the public is blind.

[Alas Babylon!]

Yup.

Ok, nothing to see here! Back to work, peasants! You read nothing!

[Alas Babylon!]

We tried that in 2010. Did you attend TEA party then? I did.

Anyway, not to accuse you. But the Left and Media went after the TEA party movement HARD, because it scared them to death.

We need to bring back that fervor and outrage.

How did we let it die so quickly?

In my case, it was time. I couldn’t find the time to attend all the rallies beyond the first few.

I dunno. Maybe that was the way with others? Still, for a few months, it was a force to be reckoned with. I lament its demise.

Remember the Free Republic March For Justice?

We need another. The injustices of this Clinton are worse than the first.

[Owen]

Well, again, the question is how did they get D+9.

Did they apply a screen, or did they sample randomly and that’s who answered the queries?

This:
http://www.people-press.org/2016/09/13/1-the-changing-composition-of-the-political-parties/0_2-2/

is a chart showing party identification, leaners included. It’s D+4 sampled Jan-August this year. Again, can’t get official measure because many states register without party affiliation.

[The Sons of Liberty]

I watched “Outnumbered” this afternoon on Fox during lunch, and they talked as if the election was over, and all that was left was the coronation. I lost my appetite and had to turn it off.

[sagar]

These females have been indoctrinated since their birth that the gender differences aren’t real and they expect real men to act the “same” way.

[edh]

“We don’t really need any other explanation of how these numbers shifted. They MADE them shift.”

There are two reasons why they are doing this :

1> Nefarious : Depress Trump turnout. I have NO doubt that they use these ridiculous D+1,000,000 numbers to get Trump supporters depressed.

2> Semi-nefarious : These pollsters are operating under the assumption that Trump’s comments are going to cause a depressed Republican turnout this election. Now, #1 plays a part in that, but they seem convinced that a lot of Republicans are going to stay at home since they dislike Trump while they’ll all turn out for Hillary as usual.

Bottom line ... ignore these frigging polls.

[xzins]

I agree with you to a degree.

But I also know that most of my family listens to the media and their polling propaganda. I like being able to point out the discrepancy in the methodologies rather than just saying, “I don’t believe that.”

[Sam Gamgee]

If he pulls it off he will do it despite no help from Fox News hosts and guests at all. In fact despite being shit on by Bernie Goldberg, Dana Perino and Greg Gutfield.

How about lend a little help to the candidate. So far its only been Sean.

[Repeal 16-17]

Murdoch News has been cooking its polls just as much as the rest of the Liberal Media. Ignore the polls, except for exposing their Liberally biased internals.

[free_life]

And watch lots of women will vote Trump but not admit it.

Thanks for ths, get well quickly.

[grey_whiskers]

Hi, troll-boy.

You forgot all the circle jerk of GOP blame over who stayed home for Romney, remember?

Don't give me the BS over the absolute numbers: there is a vast pool of untapped voters out there, and posters from states all over the country are reporting large numbers of people who never voted before, registering in advance now while talking about Trump.

[cradle of freedom]

It certainly looked like Megyn Kelly was coordinated with the Hillary Clinton’s all women all the time campaign. Megyn Kelly conflated some comments that he made about individual women and made turned them against all women.

[cradle of freedom]

Say what you will about him, Alex Jones knows how to get people out in the streets especially young people. He uses the approach that attracts young people and is a good counter to all the brainwashing that is going on in the schools and media. Even the title of his program “Info Wars” gets right to the center of the problem. We are having our country taken away from us not by the gun but by words. The serpent was the most wise of creatures.