Posted on 08/17/2016 12:33:22 PM PDT by upchuck
Starting in October, patches will be cumulative and Win7/8.1 customers will effectively cede control of their PCs to Microsoft
Windows 7 and 8.1 have had a good run, but that's about to come to a close. According to new guidelines, Microsoft will start rolling out Windows 7 and 8.1 (as well as Server 2008 R2, 2012, and 2012 R2) patches in undifferentiated monthly blobs. The patches will be cumulative, which eliminates the need to exercise judgment in selecting the patches you want. At the same time, though, the new approach severely hampers your ability to recover from bad patches -- and it allows Microsoft to put anything it wants on your Win7/8.1 PC.
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To a first approximation, Windows 7 and 8.1 customers have two choices: Stop updating entirely or accept everything Microsoft ships. There are some nuances: Admins for Win 7 and 8.1 PCs attached to an update server will be able to independently juggle the security and nonsecurity blobs, while Home users get both security and nonsecurity patches together. Monthly Flash updates and .Net cumulative updates will roll out independently.
It's going to take Microsoft a while to fold all of its old patches into the new scheme, but by and large, starting in October it's Microsoft's way or the highway.
As you might expect, many longtime Windows 7 devotees (present company included) are livid. After years of picking and choosing patches based on their KB numbers, Microsoft is taking full control of the billion-or-so Windows machines that aren't yet absorbed into the Win10 fold. If one of the new patches breaks something, your only choice is binary: Remove all of the patches and wait a month for Microsoft to fix the bad one, or suck it up and live with the problem.
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“They” will never bring cable out here in the boondocks. Installation would be very expensive for them and ROI would take forever.
I’m happy.
#NeverMicrosoft!...................
Great name!! I once belonged to a bicycling club named the Slow Spokes.
What’s a good safe alternative?
Never10 may continue to work—it allegedly sets registry to block the W 10 move.
https://www.grc.com/never10.htm
..strange, but after I installed GWX Control Panel to identify and stop Win 10 related updates, no more updates at all —I wonder why? LOL
I have friends who have updated their Win 7 machines through the years. They applied the roll up without problem.
Strongly suggest you make a clone of your boot disk before applying the roll up. Better safe than sorry. Reinstalling from scratch can be a nightmare. Been there, got the t-shirt :)
Turn off Updates and take chances, when my computer dies, go Mac. More secure anyway.
My wife already went to Mac for her home business computer and tho it took a little training it now runs smooth as glass, safe and intuitive. Yes worth a little more expense.
Going to Mac for my father-in-law too. Tired of going over to his house all the time helping him with windows issues.
Are you seeking an alternative to Win 7/8.1?
IMHO, there isn't one. Unless you want to try Linux or Apple.
I’ve heard of Linux. How good is it and what does it cost?
Linux is excellent. I’m not running it but may in the future depending on what MSFT does.
Linux is free. There are several distributions and each has its good and bad points.
Try sending a FReepmail to Shadow Ace with questions about Linux. He, apparently, is a Linux guru.
MicroSchlockft V666.xxx
Posted from a marzhmallow 6.xxx machine. :-)
“it was made for 10; I don’t expect many problems”
I think you will be amazed at how much you will dislike Windows 10.
Keep an eye on the website — if for some reason Never10 isn’t effective to block this new upgrade push, I’m sure Steve Gibson will have an updated Never10 available soon.
OK, thanks FRiend.
You can always Windows 10> Settings > Recover > Reset. It leaves your documents and removes all applications if your wife decides to install a coupon application which is malware and spamware!
I fully expect to dislike it, even though I think the hardware will handle it just fine.
If I thought I could get away with it at work, I would move to Linux exclusively.
Monthly vs weekly really isn’t that big a deal. Especially for 7 which hasn’t been having updates every week lately anyway. And they might as well be rollups, given their labels I doubt anybody actually picks and chooses updates, the descriptions are largely meaningless unless you’re willing to research each KB number.
I figures MS was messing with things.
Frequently, when I try to upgrade the MS Essentials virus definitions on both my Win7 laptop and desktop, the little icon spins and never finishes.
To get the new definitions to be recognized, I have to manually download them from MS and ‘Run as Administrator’.
This has been going on for about 6 months.
I have all MS updates turned OFF on both machines. I have too many things that will not run under Win10, so I have no intention of upgrading. I did try it out on an extra hard drive and did not like it at all.
FYI
When I tried to upgrade from 7 to 10 on an extra hard drive, it stalled out at the point where it said to enter the product code.
Later, I retried installing and ignored putting anything in the new product code blank. It worked. Apparently, it reads the product code from the exiting Win7, but re-inputting the code messes it up.
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