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Microsoft changes Win7/8.1 updates, pushes even harder for Windows 10
Infoworld ^ | Aug 16, 2016 | Woody Leonhard

Posted on 08/17/2016 12:33:22 PM PDT by upchuck

Starting in October, patches will be cumulative and Win7/8.1 customers will effectively cede control of their PCs to Microsoft

Windows 7 and 8.1 have had a good run, but that's about to come to a close. According to new guidelines, Microsoft will start rolling out Windows 7 and 8.1 (as well as Server 2008 R2, 2012, and 2012 R2) patches in undifferentiated monthly blobs. The patches will be cumulative, which eliminates the need to exercise judgment in selecting the patches you want. At the same time, though, the new approach severely hampers your ability to recover from bad patches -- and it allows Microsoft to put anything it wants on your Win7/8.1 PC.

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To a first approximation, Windows 7 and 8.1 customers have two choices: Stop updating entirely or accept everything Microsoft ships. There are some nuances: Admins for Win 7 and 8.1 PCs attached to an update server will be able to independently juggle the security and nonsecurity blobs, while Home users get both security and nonsecurity patches together. Monthly Flash updates and .Net cumulative updates will roll out independently.

It's going to take Microsoft a while to fold all of its old patches into the new scheme, but by and large, starting in October it's Microsoft's way or the highway.

As you might expect, many longtime Windows 7 devotees (present company included) are livid. After years of picking and choosing patches based on their KB numbers, Microsoft is taking full control of the billion-or-so Windows machines that aren't yet absorbed into the Win10 fold. If one of the new patches breaks something, your only choice is binary: Remove all of the patches and wait a month for Microsoft to fix the bad one, or suck it up and live with the problem.

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upchuck's solution: MSFT updating to my Win 7 machine has been turned off since updating from Win XP.

No problems thus far.

1 posted on 08/17/2016 12:33:22 PM PDT by upchuck
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To: dayglored; Swordmaker

Ping.


2 posted on 08/17/2016 12:34:00 PM PDT by upchuck (The very worst of Trump is much better than the very best of Killary. Go TRUMP!)
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To: upchuck

Same here. No updating allowed for over a year... No updates... no problems. I have no use for all their wizzbang crap.


3 posted on 08/17/2016 12:38:51 PM PDT by JDoutrider
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To: upchuck

I turned off all that crap too. I don’t need their blather.


4 posted on 08/17/2016 12:39:25 PM PDT by Gaffer (fg)
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To: upchuck

FUMicrosoft


5 posted on 08/17/2016 12:40:48 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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To: upchuck

I’m forced to use Windows for my work PC (and our IT department will be providing me with a new Windows 10 image soon).

However, this is why I switched to Ubuntu Linux for my personal computers. The initial install is free (both “as in freedom” and “as in beer”), as are the updates, which I can install as I see fit.

A few years back I installed Linux on an old laptop for my parents to use — it does what they need it to do (e-mail, internet, Facebook, some basic games), and now they would probably be lost if I gave them a PC running Windows 8.1/10.


6 posted on 08/17/2016 12:42:00 PM PDT by GCC Catholic (Stay out of the weeds! Let's hold fast to the path and Make America Great Again!)
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To: Qiviut

Bkmk


7 posted on 08/17/2016 12:45:06 PM PDT by Qiviut (In Islam you have to die for Allah. The God I worship died for me. [Franklin Graham])
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To: upchuck
Excuse a 'puter idiots dumb question:

So if I like my WIN 8.1, I don't actually NEED the periodic 8.1 updates they send me?

8 posted on 08/17/2016 12:48:33 PM PDT by PROCON ("Lock Her Up! Lock Her Up!")
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To: GCC Catholic

Microsoft forced updated to 10 on my fathers business computer. I have pulled my hair out since. It is one bug after another and now lags with certain programs and didn’t before the upgrade. I have 10 at work and at home, prefer 7.


9 posted on 08/17/2016 12:48:45 PM PDT by sarge83
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To: upchuck

I’ll quit updating too. I have selectively been updating until now.


10 posted on 08/17/2016 12:50:10 PM PDT by blam (Jeff Sessions For President)
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To: upchuck

Yeah, but you’re still on dial-up and wi-fi, aren’t you. Hook an unpatched Windows Anything to broadband and...well, you’ll see.


11 posted on 08/17/2016 12:50:29 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: sarge83

have 7 on all my laptops and 8 at work. The time I upgrade to 10, I have a sex change and vote Dummycrat.


12 posted on 08/17/2016 12:50:58 PM PDT by max americana (fired every liberal in our company at every election cycle..and laughed at their faces (true story))
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To: upchuck

NEVER10

https://www.grc.com/never10.htm


13 posted on 08/17/2016 12:51:00 PM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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To: upchuck

I have a machine that failed 4 times to update to 10. Each time I tried removing things to make it install. Never did. Now, after the cuttoff date, it’s still trying to install it.


14 posted on 08/17/2016 12:53:10 PM PDT by MarkeyD (Obama is a victim of Affirmative Action)
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To: upchuck

My wife’s computer [a gift] has windows 10 but now they are sending updates. Well now updates can’t be installed because there is not enough storage. Must the computer get bigger disks? or what? ideas?


15 posted on 08/17/2016 12:53:27 PM PDT by ex-snook (The one true God sent Jesus here to show us the way.)
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To: upchuck

Exactly.
Just go into Control Panel and turn it Automatic Updates off...........


16 posted on 08/17/2016 12:53:38 PM PDT by Red Badger (Make America AMERICA again!.........................)
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To: upchuck

Bookmark.


17 posted on 08/17/2016 12:54:16 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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To: upchuck

Do you think they will offer a free win 10 for those of us who did not do it in the first go-around? Or is it too late for the free offer forever?


18 posted on 08/17/2016 12:54:23 PM PDT by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie)
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To: upchuck

I used windows 10 until it was unusable and worthless. Then I minimized it and went back to google chrome which works wonderful. Windows 10 showed up on my system one day, I thought it was a virus at first, now I know it is a virus.


19 posted on 08/17/2016 12:54:35 PM PDT by Uncle Sam 911
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To: upchuck

Microsoft jacked my Windows 7 machine last month trying to force me on Windows 10.

My understanding is Apple will role out new computers in the next 60 days. That will be next purchase.

I’m done with Mircosoft.


20 posted on 08/17/2016 12:57:55 PM PDT by Enlightened1
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