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There Are No Successful Black Nations
Foreign Policy ^ | August 8 2016 | Chigozie Obioma

Posted on 08/12/2016 9:02:25 AM PDT by jumpingcholla34

Early African-American intellectuals and cultural elites saw that the future of their race could not be advanced by endless protests or marches of “equality” or “justice.” It could only be done through the restoration of the trampled dignity of the black man. Great men like Marcus Garvey, W. E. B. Du Bois, and Malcolm X all knew that a people is only respected when it has a nation worthy of respect. A man who lives in a shack cannot expect to be treated with respect at a palace. They knew that for us to reclaim power we must first reclaim dignity and that this comes through the construction of a solid black state with a demonstrable level of development and prosperity–and which can stand as a powerful advocate for the global black.

Today, no such state exists.

Nigeria, the most populous black nation on Earth, is on the brink of collapse. The machineries that make a nation exist, let alone succeed, have all eroded. One might argue that the nation’s creation by self-seeking white imperialists engendered its failure from the beginning, as I did in my recent novel. But this is only a part of the cause. A culture of incompetence, endemic corruption, dignified ineptitude, and, chief among all, destructive selfishness and greed has played a major role in its unravelling. The same, sadly, can be said for most other African nations. States like Zimbabwe, Cameroon, and Equatorial Guinea are farcical democracies ruled by men who exclusively cater to their interests and those of their clipped circles.

Thus, it is no surprise that in the absence of any healthy black nation–in the midst of chaos, senseless wars, corrupted religiosity, violence, and economic collapse–African and Caribbean people leave home en masse.

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KEYWORDS: africa; blacks; nigeria
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To: PIF

“Actually there were, but long ago before the coming of the Portuguese in 1460 and the introduction of firearms.”

“rapidly fell apart with the introduction of European diseases - mainly syphilis. The cities were built from wood and decayed back to jungle in a few short years.”


This unnamed country doesn’t sound very smart to me if they allowed that to happen. Why didn’t they invent firearms or at least something more advanced than spears to defend themselves? MASSIVE FAIL, IMO.


61 posted on 08/12/2016 9:48:18 AM PDT by panaxanax
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
What is not forgivable is someone to write an article about it and apparently do little or no research.

The man who wrote the article is Nigerian, and if you read the article, he is basically defining success with a much higher bar than your example of Ethiopia. Success means a dominant world power than can compete with the West across the spectrum of accomplishments, militarily, culturally and academically, for example.

62 posted on 08/12/2016 9:49:07 AM PDT by LambSlave
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To: DIRTYSECRET
It was enough for my Nigerian buddy to say “I could go home and have 3 wives!”

Anyone who thinks three wives is a good idea has obvious IQ problems.

63 posted on 08/12/2016 9:55:06 AM PDT by gdani
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To: Travis McGee

“Just compare Singapore to Lago, for example.”

or Detroit to Salt Lake City


64 posted on 08/12/2016 9:55:39 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: jumpingcholla34

After visiting south African countries, a few years back, I came away from Botswana with a very favorable impression.


65 posted on 08/12/2016 9:56:54 AM PDT by BluH2o
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius; Harmless Teddy Bear

Where are the great monuments and buildings? Where are the great works of art and literature? Where is there even evidence of a written language?


66 posted on 08/12/2016 9:57:25 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Socialism is always just one or a thousand or a million more murders away from utopia.)
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To: Captain PJ
Does that mean my two boys have an average IQ of 105?

In general children get their neocortex blueprint from their mother, their ambitions from their father. However the IQs of Asian/Caucasian blends do show a melting of the two parent IQs, which is evidence the higher Asian IQ is genetic and not environmental.

67 posted on 08/12/2016 9:58:14 AM PDT by Reeses (A journey of a thousand miles begins with a government pat down.)
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To: Daffynition

Did you take that picture? If so, you are an excellent photographer.


68 posted on 08/12/2016 9:58:19 AM PDT by panaxanax
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To: Arthur McGowan

Median IQ:

Asians: 110
Whites: 100

Hope my wife doesn’t see these figures. She’s Japanese I am white. Does that mean my two boys have an average IQ of 105?


69 posted on 08/12/2016 9:59:04 AM PDT by Captain PJ (Are we there yet?)
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To: jumpingcholla34

Muzzies too. The only ones that are prosperous, are those that sell oil to unsuspecting fools.


70 posted on 08/12/2016 10:00:59 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Lying Media: willing and eager allies of the hate-America left.)
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To: panaxanax

Only massive fail from the modern perspective - at the time the African cities had lots of food, running water, sewage systems and little or no crime - things which did not exist in Portugal. The Portuguese sent repeated requests to be allowed to remain in Africa. Those in power at home were afraid if they were allowed to remain, that many others would flee to Africa and away from the horrid living conditions in the then most advanced civilization in Europe.

They were powerless before diseases before which they had no immunities. They had no need of firearms as they lived a mostly peaceful life and warfare was fought with surrogates - one was chosen from each side, the winner’s side won the argument. Armies fighting to the death was not done - a European invention. This is about civilization, not who has the best invention - by that measure, the Egyptian, the Greek, and the Roman civilizations were massive failures


71 posted on 08/12/2016 10:04:00 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: jumpingcholla34

The real problem is more loosely correlated with race.

That problem is when you co-mingle corruption with socialism.

One can argue you can’t have socialism without corruption, and I won’t argue that in the long term.

But whether you’re in Lagos Nigeria, San Juan PR, Caracas Venezuela, Gaza Strip, or Detroit Michigan, the common thread is more a factor of the mix of corruption and socialism than race.

Socialist countries like Sweden generally are not corrupt - though the corruption around immigration will ultimately make them a failed state just as bad as any other.

The US props up more socialist regimes with foreign aid than anyone can imagine.


72 posted on 08/12/2016 10:04:25 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: litehaus

My co-worker is from Cape Town.

She and her husband want be become Americans.

Whites in South Africa have zero rights. Time to get out.


73 posted on 08/12/2016 10:05:57 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: Daffynition

Black Labs Matter


74 posted on 08/12/2016 10:08:36 AM PDT by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: Arthur McGowan
The “sweet spot” for criminality and violence is 85.

I've never heard that before but it makes sense... do you have a link?

75 posted on 08/12/2016 10:09:58 AM PDT by GOPJ (Chicago and Detroit are NOT accidents... they're DEMOCRAT CITIES BASED ON DEMOCRAT VALUES.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

“There Are No Successful Black Nations
Incorrect but I admit they are not the ones you hear about.”

Some examples please?


76 posted on 08/12/2016 10:21:13 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Common Sense, Trump and Pence. More of the same, Clinton and Kaine.)
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To: Captain PJ

http://www.lagriffedulion.f2s.com/sft.htm

a good read.


77 posted on 08/12/2016 10:23:32 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: Captain PJ

So’s mine, but I test between 130 and 145 depending on the day and how I feel. I have a feeling my daughter’s are higher than me, but my wife falls a bit lower - so you’ve got a shot ;)

Course she could be throwing the exam to make me feel good, hadn’t thought of that....oooh she’s smart....


78 posted on 08/12/2016 10:28:14 AM PDT by reed13k
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To: gdani

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The U.S. is a doomed banana republic. We just hide it better under mountains of unpayable debt & financial obligations, the illusion of competing political parties, and the continual erosion of basic freedoms and rights.
>

TY for stating the obvious.

Unfort., there are more than enough living on the (R) plantation that refuse to take off the blinders to see. Verifiable every 2 yrs. when 99% get re-elected; yet, have a favor-ability rating just above ‘slam own hand in door’).


79 posted on 08/12/2016 10:31:09 AM PDT by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: Sioux-san

You might be interested in this. I agree with your statement that the solutions are not political. Politics is downstream of culture.

Here’s an interesting interview with Burgess Owens, former NFL star, where he talks about his new book, “Liberalism or How to Turn Good Men into Whiners, Weenies and Wimps”.
He makes a statement that applies to both blacks and whites,
“Ignorant and free can never be”. Our republic requires informed and educated citizens with a moral base rooted in Christianity.

It’s on the stevedeaceshow site so many here will probably never go there. But it’s a great interview. He says things most of us wish the majority of blacks knew and believed. It’s tragic and immoral what the Democrat Party has done to blacks in America. But there’s also lots of blame to go around.

http://stevedeaceshow.crtv.libsynpro.com
It’s the Aug. 12, 2016 show.
Click the start button and then drag the slider to time code 01:29.00 or 01.30.00 (interview starts somewhere around there).


80 posted on 08/12/2016 10:40:46 AM PDT by Lake Living
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