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There Are No Successful Black Nations
Foreign Policy ^ | August 8 2016 | Chigozie Obioma

Posted on 08/12/2016 9:02:25 AM PDT by jumpingcholla34

Early African-American intellectuals and cultural elites saw that the future of their race could not be advanced by endless protests or marches of “equality” or “justice.” It could only be done through the restoration of the trampled dignity of the black man. Great men like Marcus Garvey, W. E. B. Du Bois, and Malcolm X all knew that a people is only respected when it has a nation worthy of respect. A man who lives in a shack cannot expect to be treated with respect at a palace. They knew that for us to reclaim power we must first reclaim dignity and that this comes through the construction of a solid black state with a demonstrable level of development and prosperity–and which can stand as a powerful advocate for the global black.

Today, no such state exists.

Nigeria, the most populous black nation on Earth, is on the brink of collapse. The machineries that make a nation exist, let alone succeed, have all eroded. One might argue that the nation’s creation by self-seeking white imperialists engendered its failure from the beginning, as I did in my recent novel. But this is only a part of the cause. A culture of incompetence, endemic corruption, dignified ineptitude, and, chief among all, destructive selfishness and greed has played a major role in its unravelling. The same, sadly, can be said for most other African nations. States like Zimbabwe, Cameroon, and Equatorial Guinea are farcical democracies ruled by men who exclusively cater to their interests and those of their clipped circles.

Thus, it is no surprise that in the absence of any healthy black nation–in the midst of chaos, senseless wars, corrupted religiosity, violence, and economic collapse–African and Caribbean people leave home en masse.

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KEYWORDS: africa; blacks; nigeria
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To: Leaning Right

To be far -—> To be fair...


21 posted on 08/12/2016 9:17:49 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Actually there were, but long ago before the coming of the Portuguese in 1460 and the introduction of firearms. They were far in advance of the European nations of the time, but rapidly fell apart with the introduction of European diseases - mainly syphilis. The cities were built from wood and decayed back to jungle in a few short years.


22 posted on 08/12/2016 9:18:01 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: gaijin

Sorry about the links. The full article is behind a paywall and the links are glitchy.


23 posted on 08/12/2016 9:18:08 AM PDT by jumpingcholla34 (.)
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To: Travis McGee

Just look at how Rhodesia (Zimbabwe) has deteriorated under Mugoober. It was once the breadbasket of Africa and now tens of thousands of acres of fertile farmland stand idle as people can barely feed themselves.


24 posted on 08/12/2016 9:18:29 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Socialism is always just one or a thousand or a million more murders away from utopia.)
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To: jumpingcholla34

Been saying this since I was 10.

Rhodesia. Haiti. you name it. When the blacks take over it becomes a hellhole in about 2 weeks.


25 posted on 08/12/2016 9:19:39 AM PDT by Celerity
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To: Travis McGee

“Just compare Singapore to Lago, for example.”

I recall when TUTU got the prize telling my wife — There goes South Africa...

Hope the ANC enjoys the fruits of their anger/slaughter of all those ‘wooden shoe’ farmers.....
Soon they will have no running water/phones/stores etc etc .....


26 posted on 08/12/2016 9:20:11 AM PDT by litehaus (A memory toooo long)
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To: Mr. Douglas

South Africa is busy cutting its national throat. When they Zimbsbwize agriculture as they have begun to do South Africa will enter upon Agricultural failure and severe food shortages if not famine just as Zim did.


27 posted on 08/12/2016 9:20:12 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: Mr. Douglas

SA: A White European nation taken over by communist blacks led by Nelson Mandela and now a pale shadow of what it once was ... a nation were baby rape is common.


28 posted on 08/12/2016 9:20:18 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: jumpingcholla34
There Are No Successful Black Nations

This, despite the fact that Africa has a wealth of natural resources. Bad governance is the reason, along with the fact that African nations have not been independent for long. Before we sneer, we should note that bad governance isn't unique to Africa - we may be ahead of African nations, but we're squandering our own present and future due to corruption and mis-rule too.
29 posted on 08/12/2016 9:21:24 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: jumpingcholla34
There Are No Successful Black Nations

Incorrect but I admit they are not the ones you hear about.

It is sort of like saying there are no successful South America nations.

Also incorrect but since they are not the ones in the news a lightly educated person could be forgiven for thinking that.

What is not forgivable is someone to write an article about it and apparently do little or no research.

30 posted on 08/12/2016 9:21:39 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

The Malinese empire and the following Songhai empire would beg to differ.


31 posted on 08/12/2016 9:23:50 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius (www.wilsonharpbooks.com - Sign up for my new release e-mail and get my first novel for free)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Suggest you read up about Ethiopia.
32 posted on 08/12/2016 9:24:10 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: Mr. Douglas

The modern nation of South Africa was built by the Dutch, then taken by the English during the Boer Wars.
It was a successful nation during this period.
Since being taken over by the black African (think Mandella & cronies) nationals it has degenerated into one of the worst, most dangerous, so called democracies on the African Continent.


33 posted on 08/12/2016 9:24:23 AM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: ExGeeEye

You get it!

And it’s not exactly in the same shape as when they bought it. Well, ONE part is:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orania,_Northern_Cape


34 posted on 08/12/2016 9:25:07 AM PDT by Mr. Douglas (Today is your life. What are you going to do with it?)
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To: PIF; arthurus; ExGeeEye; Travis McGee

Thanks guys, you all got exactly where I was going with that post. It was sort of a rhetorical question.

If you want to know the real problem, btw, it’s all there in an accurate, but very non-PC book called “The Bell Curve”.


35 posted on 08/12/2016 9:27:26 AM PDT by Mr. Douglas (Today is your life. What are you going to do with it?)
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To: jumpingcholla34; Travis McGee

Nor are there any great Amerindian civilizations and any nation run by a preponderance of that DNA is in trouble

Civilization has laggards and front runners and in between a

The meteoric rise of Western European Christian civilization which literally colonized the world and in the process brought civilization often to savages is now being dismantled by the Left and a weak Right through greivance politics and social justice when in reality it’s just an avenue of revenge by the descendents of brown and black and even sadly enough often yellow minorities even who have chosen to destroy white civilization as redress for what they perceive as injustice

And it’s happened very fast with now Trump as the first guy brave enough to say wait a minute

This is why the Left and angry non whites are quiet about Islam

Islam is an accelerant to burn it all down so much quicker

It’s the Kingsford charcoal lighter to get it all going that much quicker

And folks this may have roots in the Fabians and Debs early socialist and one world types but it’s really really taken off past 30 to 50 years based on one thing more than anything else

Non white and non Christian immigration to the West

And it will likely destroy us

Meanwhile the collaborative Ryan GOP rolls on and many GOP are all for it

It won’t end well...it could be the bloodiest episode of human history yet

It’s a great time for HIM to return before my kids and grandkids have to live this inevitability


36 posted on 08/12/2016 9:27:48 AM PDT by wardaddy (black lives kill....and kill....and kill.....like no other race today senselessly)
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To: Travis McGee

or Detroit


37 posted on 08/12/2016 9:29:54 AM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: jumpingcholla34

I was in college during the years of the revolution in Rhodesia where the black majority population was revolting to overthrow the ruling white majority. Ian Smith was the president of Rhodesia.

During that time I took an English lit course with a professor who was seldom on the subject. He discussed Rhodesia occasionally and its prospects under black rule. He said plainly that it would fail under black rule “because they didn’t create it”. I often remember that and consider whether individuals or groups can maintain and sustain something they didn’t create.

Now we have Zimbabwe instead of Rhodesia.


38 posted on 08/12/2016 9:32:44 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Mr. Douglas

South Africa today is not far behind Nigeria. The government there does everything it can to continue the perception that it’s a first- or at least second-world city/nation, but there is plenty of photographic evidence to the contrary, and ample news articles about whites being dispossessed of their property which promptly falls into disrepair in the hands of its new black owners, and about the rapid rise in crime.


39 posted on 08/12/2016 9:33:10 AM PDT by Little Pig
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Incorrect but I admit they are not the ones you hear about. It is sort of like saying there are no successful South America nations. Also incorrect but since they are not the ones in the news a lightly educated person could be forgiven for thinking that. What is not forgivable is someone to write an article about it and apparently do little or no research.

Don't know about that. The author grew up in Africa, traveled the continent extensively, has won awards for his books about Africa, and is a professor at the University of Nebraska. So, he might know a few things.

40 posted on 08/12/2016 9:33:53 AM PDT by jumpingcholla34
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