Posted on 06/18/2016 2:17:52 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued
Florida Rep. David Jolly is running for re-election in the 13th District.
"Today I'm asking you for the opportunity to keep doing my job," Jolly wrote in an email to supporters Friday afternoon. "I ask for your support in seeking reelection to the House of Representatives."
Jolly had been seeking the GOP nomination for Senate along with four other candidates.
Jolly's departure from the Senate race comes amid speculation that Florida Sen. Marco Rubio will file for re-election on Monday.
Jolly said on CNN Friday morning that Rubio is "saying he is getting in," but later walked back that statement. Rubio has said he plans to spend the weekend considering his options.
Jolly has said he is the only Republican who can win in his district, which became more Democratic in recent redistricting. Former Florida governor Charlie Crist is running on the Democratic ticket.
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David Jolly gives conservatives little to be jolly about, but he’s far better than the alternative. IMHO, Charlie Crist has worn out his political welcome. Jolly could easily win on the basis of that.
David Jolly is a grade-A RINO ... but you are right, he’s better than Crist ...
I am perplexed with this situation. Under normel circumstances, there is no way I would evervote for Jolly again. I have done so in the past, but I did not know then what I know now. Mr. Jolly is a dyed in the wool full blown RINO. Just yesterday on the radio he stated that there is NO WAY that he will ever vote for the Republican nominee. My dilemma is the guy he’s running against, Charlie Crist. It is my opinion that he is a fourflusher and boot licker who is not worthy of consideration.
I will vote for neither, skip this race or perhaps opt for another candidate. Sorry Jolly, you blew this big time and I hope you find another way to make a living that is not on the public’s dime. Perhaps Jeb Bush needs a caddy.
The citizens of Florida will get a chance for 6 more years of “Little” Marco. God help them.
A recent poll showed them tied.
Marco Rubio just announced that he’s running for reelection to the U.S. Senate. Congressman Ron DeSantis (the most conservative member of the FL House delegation, but who was an underdog for the nomination) is expected to drop out; hopefully he’ll file to run for reelection in his GOP-leaning—but not comfortably GOP anymore, thanks to that stupid lawsuit and court decision—district.
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/election/marco-rubio/article85234907.html
DeSantis is running for reelection, and it looks as though they’re clearing the field for him.
Hopefully DeSantis can try again for the Senate in 2018, a non-presidential year in which the chances of a non-incumbent conservative Republican winning are higher. In the meantime, he can continue to compile the most conservative voting record of any Florida Republican.
In light of this, I’m switching my endorsement to Carlos Beruff.
http://carlosberuff.com/
Bubbles Roofio is a liar, an establishment hack, a creep, and a disgrace, and I pledged to oppose him for many years now. He couldn’t even keep his word on retiring from office. He needs to go, period. I hope Beruff stomps him into the dust. He is a solid, unapologetic Conservative Cubano.
I assumed you would endorse Beruff. Most freepers will I’m sure. Some of you I’m pinging may also loathe Rubio.
As for me, no, I cannot go with a random unknown millionaire who first made the news by calling Obama an animal (he is but saying stuff like that isn’t gonna help us win) over an incumbent Senator with an overall very good record who is obviously a much stronger general election candidate. His blemishes of being untrustworthy on shamnetsty (as sadly so many are) and a bit neo-cony for my taste are far from enough for me to put him on the garbage list. Of the candidates who made it to the final leg of the POTUS race he was my second choice, and I think he’d have been a good VP choice for Trump.
The polling has been very worrisome, I’m glad Rubio broke his “pledge” to retire after being begged to by pretty much every Republican in Washington and Florida. Given Florida’s very late primary his reentering the Senate race if he failed to get on the ticket was always a valid option and given the failure of any of the other candidates to gain traction, and other than DeSantis none of them were demonstrably better than Rubio anyway (and Jolly was far worse), I think this is a very positive development.
Beruff btw supported CRIST for the Senate, even AFTER he started running as an indie and the defacto democrat nominee as most of them abandoned Kendrick Meek, so I’m sorry I don’t buy that he’s Mr. Conservative because he says he is. He’s Mr. Rich guy who wants to buy an office.
I’m glad DeSantis is going back to the House and I hope he has no difficultly in doing so. I’d also love for him to run for Nelson’s seat in ‘18. I assume he can keep his impressive campaign kitty, his strong fundraising has pretty much been the only good news coming out of the FL Senate race till now.
We will never change Washington sending the same con artists and fraudsters back over and over again. I give them one chance to prove themselves. Bubbles Roofio not only failed, he never had any intention of changing the culture of corruption, he was the very instrument to perpetuate the corruption. I’m done with that.
You won’t change it by sending random Crist-supporting millionaires who sing the tea party tune just to get elected either. Or by sending Patrick Murphy who would likely defeat Beuff anyway (actually that would change it, for the worse). I’m an optimal realistic outcome guy, which is why I endorsed Trump after Cruz left the race. I presume Trump is pleased at this development, he doesn’t want Patrick Murphy in there.
If DeSantis had remained in the race maybe it’s a different story but to me, this is a no-brainer, I can’t say that Rubio is a bad Senator (you can, I don’t agree), I can’t say Beuff would be a better Senator than Rubio, I can’t even say that he’s not actually worse than Rubio (and that alone closes the door for me supporting any challenger to any incumbent), but I can say that Rubio has a much better chance of beating Patrick Murphy, he probably beats him and Beuff probably does not.
I understand and respect your position but we’ll have to agree to disagree on this one. Polling has Rubio crushing Beuff anyway so our opinions are both probably moot, Bueff will likely have nothing to show for this race but higher name recognition (up from zero) if he chooses to run for office again, and a thinner bank account balance. If I were him I would not waste my money attacking Rubio and instead bank some party goodwill by clearing the field. If were him I also would have denounced Charlie Crist after he left the party rather than continuing to support his candidacy for the Senate.
As it turned out, there wouldn’t have been a dime’s worth of difference between Bubbles and the Orange Menace. At least the latter had the common courtesy to switch parties. I’ve laid out why I will never support Roofio again, and I hope Beruff obliterates him in the primary.
If Beruff turns out to be a lying phony, we’ll turn him out, but I already know what Bubbles is.
That's demonstrably very false. Rubio has a very good overall voting record and Crist is now a democrat. Rubio will never be a democrat, it would be ridiculous for someone as conservative as him to switch parties, it's a silly notion.
And even if were true, which it's not, it would not justify Beuff's actions in supporting an indie who was sure to sit with democrats over the Republican nominee, you'd have bashed him at the time for it if you had known who the hell he was.
And six years is a long time to eat a mistake. Given the failure to "turn out" hardly any incumbents I would have zero confidence in Bueff getting "turned out" if he won and disappointed you. That's empty bragging that has not been backed up by recent election results, Rubio is not likely to lose because FR doesn't like him, why would Beuff? 6 years is also a long time to have Patrick Murphy in that seat voting 100% liberal.
The risk/reward ratio for Beuff is nonexistent in my estimation.
If Roofio has such a “very good” voting record, why do I oppose him ?
You’d have to ask yourself. ;d If he’s so terrible why do I support him? And while I might be a little lonely in that on this website I hardly am amongst conservatives in general. Ted Cruz, Ron DeSantis, and Club for Growth support him, and I think Trump probably will too, at the very least I don’t see him endorsing Beurff. I realize I’ve been leaving the “r” out of his name, my bad. Are we all daft? Are you? No, we just disagree, which is fine.
I presume you oppose him because of shamesty and your completely justified emotionally charged opposition to it. Maybe it’s because I’m a generally unemotional person but I don’t see things the same way. Perhaps that’s also why Donald Trump fails to excite me.
I refuse to completely vilify any otherwise conservative Republican because of wavering on that one issue (and I fail to construe wavering as being the same thing as irrevocably embracing the liberal democrat position) especially when I have no confidence in their opponents on that issue either (this applies to the POTUS race as well, there was only 1 candidate in the race who I reasonably trusted on the issue, it wasn’t Rubio nor Trump, it was Cruz, and that didn’t stop me from initially backing Walker over him).
I also refuse to lionize someone for “talking the talk” if their record doesn’t back it up. That’s just me. Words are wind. Everybody lies, especially politicians, Beurff says he’s a “true conservative™”? Well his most notable past political action runs contrary to that assertion and instead points to either idiocy or liberalism. Combine that with his crappy poll numbers and I don’t find him worthy of consideration in this race. Shrug.
Even if I round Rubio as warranting a primary challenge, which I can’t say that I do, I would only back someone that I was actually convinced was more conservative and convinced could win the GE, not a Milton Wolf type.
I’m willing to give Beruff the benefit of the doubt and allow him to prove he will walk the walk. Roofio was given the opportunity, and it was a lie. I do not overstate by any means that if he were to have ended up as President (either by his own accord or via Trump’s VP) he would legalize every criminal border-jumper in the nation in a heartbeat. That is treason.
Reagan’s Amnesty was the worst thing he ever did, bar none, but I would accuse him of merely being misguided or misled. This is completely different. We already know that such actions would not make tens of millions of illegals suddenly grateful to the GOP. No more so than the majority of Republicans supporting the Civil Rights Act of 1964 made Blacks show their continuing eternal loyalty to the party that freed them.
I can only assume Beruff will pursue policies conducive to sending illegals back to their nations of origin (via forcible means or of their own accord), but I already know where Bubbles Roofio stands on the issue. I don’t care if the rest of his stances earned him a 99% rating from the ACU. This one single issue is the difference between the America of the Founders, or the America of Orwell.
Rubio running for reelection allows the Republicans, to keep the seat in Florida. But is it enough to hold the Senate?
2004: "Mel Martinez is a solid, unapologetic Conservative Cubano"
2010: "Marco Rubio is a solid, unapologetic Conservative Cubano"
2016: "Carlos Beruff is a solid, unapologetic Conservative Cubano"
Hmmm. We've seen this song and dance three times now. Some slick fresh-faced candidate shows up to tell them what they want to hear, and they immediately fall in line to endorse him, vouch for what a great guy he is, and accuse anyone who has doubts about the candidate's "solid conservative" credentials of potentially being a closet racist against hispanic candidates. The track record is the that the FReepers and "Tea Party" groups touting the "solidly conservative, "hispanic rising star" candidate have been 0-2 on their predictions, and I've been 2-0 in hesitating to jump in line to endorse their latest "rising star conservative Cuban"
Hopefully third time's the charm for them and I end up being wrong the third time around, but the odds aren't looking good.
>> Beruff btw supported CRIST for the Senate, even AFTER he started running as an indie and the defacto democrat nominee as most of them abandoned Kendrick Meek, so I’m sorry I don’t buy that he’s Mr. Conservative because he says he is. He’s Mr. Rich guy who wants to buy an office.
You won’t change it by sending random Crist-supporting millionaires who sing the tea party tune just to get elected either
And six years is a long time to eat a mistake. Given the failure to "turn out" hardly any incumbents <<
Give that information, I'm inclined to agree with Impy on this one. Rubio isn't my ideal choice, but I'll take him over some untested "Tea Party" candidate who backed that scumbag Crist AFTER he left the GOP. The difference between Rubio and Martinez is that aside from betraying us on immigration (which again, I WARNED about in 2010, saying he sounded like Martinez redux, and it fell on deep ears), Rubio has OTHERWISE been a solid conservative. Maybe Fieldmarshaldj doesn't care that Rubio has done the right thing the other 95% of the time, but I do. Given that conservatives have gotten burned TWICE now over a so-called "anti-amnesty" FL Senate candidate, you'd think they would finally STOP jumping in line to endorse whatever candidate shows up and tells them what they want to hear. Nope. Apparently this tactic will work over and over and over again.
Let's hope history doesn't repeat itself and I find myself saying "I told you so" in 2022 (when a candidate named Juan Garcia shows up, swears he is against amnesty, and they tout him as a "solid, unapologetic Conservative Cubano" who is 10X better than that "traitor" Carlos Beruff (after Carlos promptly voted for amnesty after being sworn in back in 2017)
I knew you would mention that!
Yes, the exact same thing being said about Beruff now was said about Rubio then, and Martinez before him. You were one of the very few people here I recall that was unconvinced of Rubio being better than Martinez. Rubio was “given the benefit of the doubt” because he talked the talk, not that he had any viable opposition after Crist exited the primary.
Beruff’s explaination re Crist is “he fooled me like he did many Floridians”, that flies as far as supporting him for the nomination, not standing by him when he abandoned the party. The only difference between the 2 candidates I can be sure of is that Rubio is much more likely to win, which closes the case for me.
I like candidates for high office to have records, damn it!
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