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TWA 800: Breaking -- Air Traffic Controller Tells All
American Thinker ^ | 6-13-16 | Jack Cashill

Posted on 06/13/2016 8:53:08 AM PDT by Lockbox

As I hoped would happen, American Thinker’s series on TWA Flight 800 has prompted individuals with first hand knowledge to come forward. “Mark Johnson” is one. An air traffic controller (ATC), he worked the night of July 17, 1996 -- the night TWA Flight 800 was destroyed -- at the New York Terminal Radar Approach Control (TRACON) located in Westbury, New York.

Johnson has provided me with his real name, and I have confirmed that he was in a position to know what he says he knows. He requested that I use an alias because he has children who depend on him. The federal government, he believes, “will seek revenge, retribution and/or any other remedy they feel like. I would be fearful my pension would be at risk.” I have heard this sentiment voiced by many people involved in this incident.

Although Johnson was not responsible for tracking TWA Flight 800, he spoke directly with the ATC who did. In fact, he asked him “plenty of questions to prepare myself for the ‘suits’ who were beginning to arrive.” Along with several other ATCs, he viewed the radar tape of the incident. According to Johnson, “A primary radar return (ASR-9) indicated vertical movement intersecting TWA 800.”

An advanced radar system, the Northrop Grumman ASR-9 is able to detect a “target” in severe clutter even when the target has no transponder. The absence of a transponder is what distinguishes a “primary radar return” from a “secondary” one. In others words, the radar picked up a small, unidentified, ascending object intersecting TWA 800 in the second before the 747 “disappeared from radar.”

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: atc; cashill; clinton; clintonlegacy; conspiracytheory; coverup; foilwatch; planecrash; twa800; twaflight800
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To: Red Badger
It has always been my belief that the Clintons covered up the real reason it was destroyed to keep from having to explain it during an election year. Just like Benghazi....................

I know stuff about this that I wish I could say how I know, but I promised the person who told me about this that I would not divulge any details about the person who told me this or the evidence that this person told me about.

That person is afraid of retaliation. I have known that person for years, and I can say that person was in a position at the time to know what that person is talking about.

I can say this. The plane was shot down by rouge Iranians who were taking revenge for the shooting down of Iran Air Flight 655 in 1988.

Bill Clinton knows fully well that it was Iranians that shot down that airplane, but Bill Clinton is a grease ball coward with no morals or ethics, and he was horrified at the idea of what would happen if the nation found out Iran had deliberately shot down one of our aircraft.

And more importantly, (from Bill Clinton's perspective) he would likely loose the election over it.

My friend said that he and others were ordered to destroy evidence and to remain silent about the incident.

I have traded email messages with Jack Cashill on this issue, and I have asked that person to give an interview to Jack Cashill, but that person does not wish to do so.

It's very frustrating because the world and the nation needs to know what an utter piece of sh*t Bill Clinton is, was, and has always been.

101 posted on 06/13/2016 10:44:23 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: oscar_diggs

The transponder in TWA800 would have been broadcasting altitude data.

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Very true. But it would be impossible to determine if there was an intersection between radar returns using nothing but radar data as the article claims.


102 posted on 06/13/2016 10:45:38 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: SaxxonWoods

Have you read the NTSB report?

http://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/AccidentReports/Reports/AAR0003.pdf


103 posted on 06/13/2016 10:46:38 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: Mr. K

If you haven’t already, you should read Nelson DeMille’s book “Nightfall” which takes a fictional tilt at essentially the video you’re talking about (I think it was from a nearby motel rather than a bar, IIRC). It also happens to be an outstanding read


104 posted on 06/13/2016 10:46:53 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (We need a separation of press and state!)
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To: Alberta's Child
Whoever posted this scenario speculated that the drone simply got too close to Flight 800 (which was flying lower than normal, as I described in a previous post above).

Forget Clinton. Forget conspiracy theories. Forget government believability. Do you honestly think that the U.S. military is so stupid or careless or clueless that they would purposely fire a live missile into one of the most heavily traveled air corridors in the world? Really?

105 posted on 06/13/2016 10:51:14 AM PDT by Lower Deck
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To: Lockbox

later


106 posted on 06/13/2016 10:54:43 AM PDT by wjcsux ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: pfflier
Explain how radar can discriminate the energy of an explosion please.

Velocity and radius of debris spread. Very elementary.

107 posted on 06/13/2016 10:56:43 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: UCANSEE2

You would still have to believe that the U.S. Navy is so unbelievably stupid that they would shoot missiles and send drones into one of the most heavily traveled air corridors in the world. So just for the record, is that what you are saying?


108 posted on 06/13/2016 10:57:17 AM PDT by Lower Deck
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To: Lockbox

Paging Michael Rivero.


109 posted on 06/13/2016 10:59:04 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: Michael Rivero

ping


110 posted on 06/13/2016 11:00:17 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: Lower Deck
When? Details please.

Please forgive me, but I cannot supply details, though I have every confidence of my source. Government screw-up and subsequent cover-up. Believe it or not as you choose, but know that *I* believe it.

111 posted on 06/13/2016 11:01:21 AM PDT by aragorn (We do indeed live in interesting times. FUBO.)
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To: Yo-Yo
Are we back to a U.S. Navy accident and subsequent Clinton Administration cover-up?

It's the only rational explanation given the failure of any terrorist organization to take credit for the missile attack.

112 posted on 06/13/2016 11:02:33 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: Talisker

Does anybody remember the Iranian airliner that our military shot down a few years before TWA800? Our excuse was simply a case of mistaken identity. Too bad so many Iranian citizens died and we’re REAL sorry! Has anybody considered the possibility that Iran got even?


113 posted on 06/13/2016 11:02:43 AM PDT by oldfart
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To: DiogenesLamp
Of all the possible explanations, theories and hypotheses regarding TWA Flt. 800, a sea launched missile bearing revenge from Iran for 655 fits the data the best.

An eye for an eye followed by a Clinton cover-up before his re-election campaign against Bob Dole explains things fairly well based upon our long Clinton experience so far.

The only piece that's missing is someone or group taking credit for it.

On the other hand, would Americans sit idly by and accept such a thing without demanding retaliation? I don't think so.

Perhaps a threat of a potentially massive retaliation was enough to let it go as an eye for an eye revenge without the usual "We did this to you" boasts along with it?

Hopefully, we'll know the real truth before we all die of old age. I just don't believe the "official" version.

114 posted on 06/13/2016 11:08:02 AM PDT by GBA (Here in the matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: Lockbox
Snuffleupagus referred to the TWA 800 bombing back in 2001.

Stephanopoulos, implying that this was unnecessary, made this surprising statement: “There are facilities in the White House, not the normal situation room, which everyone has seen in the past, has seen pictures of. There is a second situation room, behind the primary situation room, which has video conferencing capabilities. The director of the Pentagon, the defense chief, can speak from a national military command center at the Pentagon. The Secretary of State can speak from the State Department, the president from wherever he is, and they’ll have this capability for video conferencing throughout this crisis. In my time at the White House it was used in the aftermath of the Oklahoma City bombing, in the aftermath of the TWA Flight 800 bombing, and that would be the way they would stay in contact through the afternoon."

http://www.wnd.com/2001/09/10953/

115 posted on 06/13/2016 11:08:08 AM PDT by Pete
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To: DiogenesLamp

Had he actually let America and the world know the truth, and attacked Iran for this, assuming they actually did do it, he would have been hailed as a hero, but no, being a sociopathic liar and married to one as well, they went into coward-cover-your-ass mode and let all those people die for a lie...........................


116 posted on 06/13/2016 11:08:08 AM PDT by Red Badger (Make America AMERICA again!.........................)
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To: Moonman62
The tank was almost empty and filled with fumes.

But no air.

117 posted on 06/13/2016 11:09:30 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: Lockbox

The method the Uniparty used to cover this Islamic terrorist attack was to explain that something was leaving the plane. Obviously after the explosion. So people mistook travelling away from the plane as motion travelling towards the plane. Neat magic trick there. And for their next trick they will pull a lone wolf out of a gay club.


118 posted on 06/13/2016 11:09:59 AM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: Moonman62
The tank was almost empty and filled with fumes. It was also heated by ambient temperatures and the air conditioning packs below it.

I keep forgetting the other issue. All sensors related to fuel systems are "intrinsically safe". They cannot make a spark or a wire hot enough to ignite the fuel even in the presence of oxygen.

119 posted on 06/13/2016 11:15:29 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: Lower Deck
You cannot fire a missile like a RIM-66 Standard without everyone on the ship knowing about it.

You can fire one with only one or two knowing where it is headed and where it hit.

120 posted on 06/13/2016 11:18:15 AM PDT by GingisK
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