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Cruz's election manager's contributed' to suicide of Missouri governor candidate
Daily Mail UK ^ | 2 March 2016 | Daily Mail Reporter

Posted on 04/23/2016 8:27:01 AM PDT by COUNTrecount

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To: AndyTheBear

>But I still maintain that Cruz is caught up in desperately trying save a diminishing hope that he may see as too bright and important to notice how his feet have wondered down a dark path.

Ambition and all consuming desire for power will do that. It’s unfortunately true that people who tend to chase power the hardest tend to be those least suitable to wield it.

Hillery Clinton for a prime example of someone who cares for nothing but power but who’s every move with that power is a disaster.


21 posted on 04/23/2016 9:00:51 AM PDT by RedWulf ((Trump supporter))
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To: RedWulf

Look, if the political back ‘n forth causes someone to kill themselves, they’re not stable in the first place.

I feel poorly for the man’s family, but trying to pin his suicide, even partially, on fierce criticism in the political arena is unfair.


22 posted on 04/23/2016 9:01:42 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper (Just say no to HRC)
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To: RedWulf

The only person responsible for a suicide is the suicide.


23 posted on 04/23/2016 9:01:54 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it." --Samuel Clemens)
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Roe also pulled the “voter violation” nonsense there too. Probably why Cruz hired him.


24 posted on 04/23/2016 9:02:34 AM PDT by proust (Texans for Trump!)
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To: Leaning Right

Really, a sleazy and unbelievable hit piece.

Beyond reality.

No one in politics would be driven to suicide by a cartoon.

I think Roe has a case for libel.


25 posted on 04/23/2016 9:04:00 AM PDT by altura (Cruz for our country)
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To: Leaning Right
Yep. Pushing back the boundaries of smear to the third derivative. Only on the internet can you reach the 'Beyond the Tabloid Zone'.

Next headline: Ted Cruz's 37th cousin, sixteen times removed stepped in a cowpie!

26 posted on 04/23/2016 9:05:01 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: BCrago66
You’re not capable of mature emotions, because you’re an emotionally stunted failure, looking for some national leader to excuse your failure (by blaming others) and take care of you. In other words, you’re a Trump supporter.

That is so right. I am a Trump supporter and just realized its because I am not capable of mature emotions and am a stunted failure looking for a national leader to take care of me.

I think also it has to do with the fact that he is orange, and I like oranges. Not sure, perhaps some more psychoanalysis may be in order.

What other sweeping generalities are true about all Trump supporters?

The world waits with fevered anticipation of the well reasoned words of wisdom that Cruz supporters may utter in their frustration at seeing their guy's chances to win collapse....

27 posted on 04/23/2016 9:07:20 AM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: Gaffer
How did Cruz have anything to do with this? It happened before the guy was hired, and because there were no charges of any kind filed, would not have appeared in a background check. Unreal.

Next up: "Cruz hires serial jaywalker, caught in 3rd grade stepping out of the crosswalk a total of seven times in six weeks!"

Really. (face palm)

28 posted on 04/23/2016 9:08:13 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Dana1960

You seriously question Ted Cruz’s employing Jeff Roe???

When Trump has just hired the ultimate sleaze bag

A couple of weeks ago, Donald Trump, following the personnel selection instincts that have made his name synonymous with “YGTBFKM” hired an aging political fixer named Paul Manafort as his “convention manager.” Manafort is a seedy individual with a sleazy history.

His supporters will tell you that he guided Gerald Ford and Ronald Reagan to convention victories in 1976 and 1980, respectively. History tells a very different story and it doesn’t mention Manafort at all. For instance, Reagan showed up at the 1980 convention with enough delegates to win on the first ballot and with no opponents still actively campaigning.

Since then Manafort has made a career out of lobbying the US government on behalf of torturers, murders, rapists, and general sadists that no other lobbyist would be associated with… and that is a very, very high bar to cross.

Over the course of a long lobbying career in D.C., top Trump aide Paul Manafort and his firm made a fortune fronting for a group of clients once referred to as the “torturers’ lobby.”

But over the years, they made millions by representing a rogue’s gallery of clients far away from D.C.’s genteel corridors of power: dictators, guerilla groups, and despots with no regard for human rights—including one man responsible for mass amputations, and another who oversaw state-sanctioned rape.

In more recent years, when he wasn’t allegedly sexually harassing women who worked for him, Manafort developed a bro-mance for Vladimir Putin, lobbied for a corrupt Ukrainian dictator who was a wholly owned subsidiary of Putin, and cavorted with a businessman who admitted to close ties to the Russian Mob. And he lobbied against Israel in the service of Saudi Arabia.

Manafort’s ties to the dangerous, the unsavory, the criminal, and the psychopathic reeked to such an extent that when his name was put forward to “manage” the 2008 GOP Convention, John McCain said “not no but hell no.“
Now we discover that Manafort was also a lobbyist for an astro-turf group, the Kashmiri American Council, that was actually a front organization for Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI).


29 posted on 04/23/2016 9:09:19 AM PDT by altura (Cruz for our country)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Why are these trumpers still dragging up inconsequential and untrue stories about Ted Cruz?

He didn’t tithe???

And now this?

I thought the trumpers were supremely confident. They keep telling me so.


30 posted on 04/23/2016 9:10:45 AM PDT by altura (Cruz for our country)
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To: Smokin' Joe

As I said, I fully support Trump and have voiced my thoughts on this particular bit as being unnecessary.

I guess I chalk it up to a response in the same vein as the media throwing stones at Trump’s use of Delaware as a legal corporate home which 64% of the Fortune 500 also do, including Goldman Sachs, Inc.


31 posted on 04/23/2016 9:11:29 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: altura
Manafort’s ties to the dangerous, the unsavory, the criminal, and the psychopathic reeked to such an extent that when his name was put forward to “manage” the 2008 GOP Convention, John McCain said “not no but hell no.“

That was smart of McCain. 2008 turned out just great.

32 posted on 04/23/2016 9:12:50 AM PDT by proust (Texans for Trump!)
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To: AndyTheBear

Andy, you might want to check out my post about the sterling character Trump has just hired.


33 posted on 04/23/2016 9:12:51 AM PDT by altura (Cruz for our country)
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To: proust

Why did I suspect that a trumper would pick McCain out of the post??

Even McCain wouldn’t sink low enough to hire Manafort.


34 posted on 04/23/2016 9:14:31 AM PDT by altura (Cruz for our country)
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To: Leaning Right

Trump supporter here, too, and I am really getting tired of the guilt by association game. People are not responsible for the actions of others. Cruz isn’t responsible for Roe, Roe isn’t responsible for this guy’s suicide, Trump isn’t responsible if his supporters threatened delegates, or for something stupid Roger Stone said, etc.

It is supposed to be a tenet of of conservatism that each of us is responsible for our own actions. Enough with the guilt by association crap.


35 posted on 04/23/2016 9:15:06 AM PDT by LNV (Nov. 2016-Trump the B!tch!)
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To: altura

>Even McCain wouldn’t sink low enough to hire Manafort.

Reagan did.


36 posted on 04/23/2016 9:15:20 AM PDT by RedWulf ((Trump supporter))
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To: altura

Lobbyists...they lobby. Good grief, even Bob Dole is a lobbyist for a foreign country.

Yes, I question the judgment of Sen. Cruz to hire a Jeff Roe. You bet I do.

Mr Roe’s reputation was well-known in political circles as sleazy and dirty. Anything goes, no matter how low or despicable. Do your research and you’ll find it.

Mr. Manafort has no such reputation. He is effective. He might not represent your choice of clients but you won’t find a word about him saying he is dishonest or duplicitous. He is a straight shooter, even if you disapprove.

I’ll see ya in Cleveland, ladybug.


37 posted on 04/23/2016 9:17:22 AM PDT by Dana1960
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To: altura

Altura is cutting and pasting his sillyness from RedState.

http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2016/04/18/breaking.-trump-convention-manager-paul-manafort-lobbied-pakistani-intelligence-front-group/


38 posted on 04/23/2016 9:17:25 AM PDT by proust (Texans for Trump!)
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To: RedWulf

Roger Stone worked for Reagan too.


39 posted on 04/23/2016 9:18:22 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: altura

“Even McCain wouldn’t sink low enough to hire Manafort.”

He also said we have nothing to fear from an Obama Presidency. We are in such great shape now that McCain took the high road.


40 posted on 04/23/2016 9:18:37 AM PDT by proust (Texans for Trump!)
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