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The Rule: First Candidate to 1,237 Wins
Townhall.com ^ | April 12, 2016 | David Limbaugh

Posted on 04/12/2016 5:20:53 AM PDT by Kaslin

I have been concerned for some time that forces supporting Donald Trump have intentionally been laying the groundwork for claiming that Trump will have been cheated if he doesn't earn the GOP nomination.

When this primary season began, few people gave Ted Cruz a snowball's chance to be in serious contention, but he has repeatedly demonstrated just how much people underestimated him.

He not only is the most informed and consistent on policy but also has assembled a grass-roots organization whose sophistication makes Obama's then-cutting-edge 2008 campaign look like 1990.

Cruz has been ganged up on from the beginning but has outlasted the vicious charges and is now on an upward arc. He is the only candidate who has survived the damning mini-labels of Trump that helped undo Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio and others.

But Trump is no dummy, either. By relentlessly bellowing "Lyin' Ted," he planted seeds for defamatory remarks against Cruz in case the tide of the campaign would tilt in his favor, as it appears to have done.

Cruz is systematically fulfilling the prophecy he made that he would begin to defeat Trump as the field narrowed, when people would focus more on the contrast between him and Trump. Since Rubio dropped out, Cruz has won far more delegates than Trump, whose negatives are through the roof, especially with women.

Cruz is also mopping up delegates in caucuses and primaries in the various states because he is more prepared, more organized and more committed -- and because he is humble enough to know he has to attend to details in every aspect of this campaign. And the delegates who Trump claims are being stolen are choosing Cruz because they see him as the more presidential and reliable of the two.

Yet Trump-favoring media and commentators, as if on cue, spread the canard that Cruz is strong-arming delegates and "stealing" them. That some are receptive to this is a testament to the effectiveness of all the previous slanders against Lion Ted Cruz.

Many Trump supporters seem to think they have an exclusive claim to angst against the ruling class. They alone are "we the people." They alone are entitled to their nominee, especially because he has a lead in the delegate count.

I've had many suggest that at such time as it becomes mathematically impossible for Cruz to win a majority of delegates going into the convention, he should withdraw -- "because he can't win." Moreover, the people have spoken, they say, and they support Trump, so everyone must get out of the way -- rules be damned.

I assume that many of these Trump supporters are green about the process and are just overly eager for their guy, but others know better. For the incontrovertible fact is that the rules for a century and a half have provided that a candidate must get a majority of delegates to win.

That threshold happens to be 1,237 delegates. No one has ever credibly suggested that a candidate with a plurality of delegates must be anointed as the nominee. Those now arguing this are the ones wanting to suspend the rules, not those who support the time-honored rule. If this thinking had prevailed in 1860, Abraham Lincoln would not have been nominated that year. He was a distant second to William Seward on the first ballot and prevailed on the third ballot.

The delegates of most states are pledged to a certain candidate for the first ballot -- and some through the second ballot -- but afterward they are released to vote for whomever they choose on subsequent ballots.

Unhappily for the Trump camp, Trump is, according to renowned statistician Nate Silver's FiveThirtyEight, the weakest GOP front-runner in modern history. Also, even people who have voted for him in earlier states may very well have buyer's remorse at this point.

But Team Trump, sticking to its message that Trump is inevitable, has adopted another clever tactic in trying to establish a fallback narrative in case he fails to reach 1,237 before Cleveland. The Trump folks spawned the conspiracy theory that Cruz is colluding with the establishment in the states to deny Trump the nomination. This dovetails with their consistent theme that Trump is the only outsider in the race.

But in fact, the party hasn't united around Cruz. Most establishment people probably prefer Cruz over Trump, but it's not because he is any less anti-establishment or less of a threat to business as usual in Washington. It's because they fear that Trump is volatile, unpresidential and authoritarian and know that Cruz is the only one who can beat him.

Over the weekend, Cruz continued to outwork, outmaneuver and outshine Trump, especially in Colorado, where Cruz won all 34 delegates. Immediately, the Trump forces cried that they were cheated out of the process. The implication is that "Lyin' Ted" broke the rules and "stole" the delegates. But there was no cheating. As FiveThirtyEight also reported, Trump "slipped up in Colorado. ... Instead of putting together a top-notch convention team, Trump's campaign was a mess." Ari Armstrong, a Colorado Republican who participated in the caucuses, wrote, "The simple fact is that the Republicans in my precinct caucus mostly disfavored Trump, and evidently that is true of most other precincts as well." And though Trump blasted the GOP's delegate rules Sunday and said a "corrupt" system is robbing him of delegates, NBC analysts say Trump has benefited more than Cruz "under the party's arcane rules for allocating delegates," having been awarded 45 percent of the delegates despite having won just 37 percent of all the votes.

Trump is not entitled to the nomination unless and until he reaches the magic number, and neither is Cruz. It is sad that some who are claiming their votes don't count are the same ones who are saying Cruz votes shouldn't count -- that Trump should be anointed now or when it becomes mathematically impossible for Cruz to win on the first ballot.

Team Cruz is not suggesting we twist the rules but insisting we adhere to them. Let's all agree to honor and play by the rules and recognize the winner of a majority of delegates when that moment occurs.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016election; delegates; donaldtrump; tedcruz
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To: Blood of Tyrants

If he doesn’t get the number because Kasich and Cruz don’t drop out, even though they can’t get the number, then they deserve whatever insults they receive.


101 posted on 04/12/2016 6:59:55 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Kaslin
He's delusional. There is no way that Cruz even with his cheating ways still gets close to the number of delegates that Trump has and will have by the convention. Trump delegate lead will never shrink overall, but will always increase over Cruz.

Cruz WILL not be the candidate. He won't have enough support no matter what. He's doing the bidding of the establishment and is only trying to damage the Trump brand. He's hoping to damage it enough so that the establishment will have just enough support to bring in THEIR candidate of choice...and it won't be Cruz. Cruz has already been paid off.

102 posted on 04/12/2016 7:04:01 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Cboldt
I know that conventional wisdom is that 1237 wins, but that rule isn’t carved in stone.

Well, the rule has been in place since 1856, so it kind of is carved in stone. If they didn't change the rule for Able Lincoln, for Ike, for Teddy Roosevelt, why would you think they would change it for Trump?

103 posted on 04/12/2016 7:06:12 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: ar1295
Stop your repeating posting at me cause Limgaugh is on ever day here on the radio alway AM sometimes FM in the mornings. An weekends to.

Wrong Limbaugh...

104 posted on 04/12/2016 7:07:20 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: fortheDeclaration

It will be his own fault if he doesn’t get to 1237. It is not Cruz’s or Kasich’s job to award him the delegates.


105 posted on 04/12/2016 7:11:11 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Liberals are the Taliban of America, trying to tear down any symbol that they don't like.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Next lets realize that the campaign Ted Cruz is running is that of a weak candidate who a majority of republican voters reject.

Well, a majority of Republican voters also reject Trump...

Ted Cruz will be pressured to drop out soon and he knows it.

Dream on. There is no way the GOP is going to pressure Cruz to drop out and cede the nomination to Trump. As long as there is even the slightest chance of keeping Trump below 1237, Cruz will have plenty of support.

106 posted on 04/12/2016 7:11:18 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: A CA Guy
Can you say fairness doctrine maybe?

Typical leftist comment - very revealing about what Trump supporters really believe...

107 posted on 04/12/2016 7:13:11 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: CA Conservative
-- Well, the rule has been in place since 1856, so it kind of is carved in stone. If they didn't change the rule for Able Lincoln, for Ike, for Teddy Roosevelt, why would you think they would change it for Trump? --

Nothing is carved in stone. As for why the party would adjust, it would do so to preserve the existing power structure. If a popular candidate threatens the power structure, there is good reason to block that candidate's take-over. Lincoln, Eisenhower and Teddy Roosevelt were acceptable candidates. Trump is not an acceptable candidate.

I don't think they would block Trump that way, I think there are less obvious ways to protect the power structure and cause Trump to fail, and by fail, I mean either fail to get the office, or fail to implement his policies once in office.

108 posted on 04/12/2016 7:14:49 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Kaslin

TTTT!


109 posted on 04/12/2016 7:15:03 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: fortheDeclaration
When someone is mathematically eliminated he drops out, he doesn't plan a convention fight.

Really? Abe Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, Dwight Eisenhower, Benjamin Harrison, James Garfield and Ronald Reagan might disagree with you...

110 posted on 04/12/2016 7:17:43 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: CA Conservative
Abe Lincoln had no primary system to deal with.

Teddy Roosevelt later went independent and was responsible for the election of Wilson over Taft.

Reagan was neck and neck with Ford, he didn't just try to stop Ford from winning the majority for the sake of a convention fight.

And Ford lost the general election because of that fight.

As for Harrison and Garfield, I don't think a primary system was in play, it was decided at the convention.

And Ike was the overwhelming popular favorite.

So none of these cases have anything to do with Cruz and his attempts to stop the frontrunner from getting the nomination so he can win it at the convention!

111 posted on 04/12/2016 9:11:46 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
No, it will the fault of Kasich and Cruz who used clever tactics to keep him from the number even though they themselves can't get the number!

The Primary system was set up to avoid convention fights, that is why when a candidate is mathematically eliminated they drop out, they don't stick around hoping that they can get enough delegates to have a convention fight.

112 posted on 04/12/2016 9:14:18 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: fortheDeclaration
No, it will the fault of Kasich and Cruz who used clever tactics to keep him from the number even though they themselves can't get the number!

Waaaahhhhh! Those mean people cheated because they wouldn't quit and let Trump win when he couldn't do it on his own! No fair! I'm going to hold my breath until I turn blue - or else I'm going to help elect Democrats! /end Trumpkin Trumpertantum....

114 posted on 04/12/2016 9:22:29 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: ar1295
How do you know who I hear on the radio. Geez dummie cruxbots.

Because, genius, David Limbaugh doesn't have a radio show. Only a Trumpkin could accuse someone else of being dumb while displaying breathtaking ignorance...

115 posted on 04/12/2016 9:25:35 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: Kaslin

I’m with Limbaugh!


116 posted on 04/12/2016 9:35:03 PM PDT by JediJones (Looks like those clowns in Congress did it again. What a bunch of clowns.)
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To: Byron_the_Aussie

I’ll spot you two delegates for that.


117 posted on 04/12/2016 9:41:30 PM PDT by JediJones (Looks like those clowns in Congress did it again. What a bunch of clowns.)
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To: Byron_the_Aussie

So it’s a white nationalist word?


118 posted on 04/12/2016 9:45:05 PM PDT by JediJones (Looks like those clowns in Congress did it again. What a bunch of clowns.)
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To: CA Conservative

I think Rush could have been threatened with the fairness doctrine. Nothing leftist about that speculation.


119 posted on 04/12/2016 9:45:08 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: CA Conservative
The one who will be responsible for electing Democrats are the Cruz people, not the Trump ones.

You guys think you can highjack a nomination and then we are going to vote for Cruz?

You are more delusional then I thought!

This is why convention fights are not good, that the primaries are suppose to decide.

Both Kasich and Cruz cannot get the majority of delegates, and should drop out for their future runs at the presidency.

Instead, the GOPe is so desperate to stop Trump they have having these guys commit political suicide to stop Trump.

Nothing you guys are doing is in good faith and we owe you nothing but contempt.

120 posted on 04/12/2016 9:54:15 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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