Posted on 04/05/2016 7:36:02 AM PDT by xzins
While we disagree with Mr. Buchanan on which candidate is the best standard bearer for the conservative movement there is one thing we do agree on – passionately.
No matter who gets the Republican nomination, the establishment must lose.
In a recent column “Lock Out The Establishment In Cleveland!” Pat Buchanan echoed the conclusions of our four-part series on what conservatives should do if Trump wins the nomination:
As Buchanan explained, to accomplish that goal, “All Trump and Cruz need do is instruct their delegates to vote to retain Rule 40 from the 2012 convention. Rule 40 declares that no candidate can be placed in nomination who has failed to win a majority of the delegates in eight states.”
Trump has already hit that mark. Cruz almost surely will. But no establishment favorite has a chance of reaching it.
With Cruz and Trump delegates voting to retain Rule 40, they can guarantee no Beltway favorite walks out of Cleveland as the nominee — and that Ted Cruz or Donald Trump does.
As Pat Buchanan said, “No matter who wins in Cleveland, the establishment must lose.” We urge Trump and Cruz delegates across the country to do what their compatriots in Tennessee and a few other states have started to do; get together and form an informal alliance that commits them to voting for Cruz or Trump – and only Cruz or Trump.
If Trump isn’t selected,I’m not voting.
The democrats and rinos have already won, the country has lost. EXPECT it to be filled with muslims and latin americans.
And CRUZ wOULD weaken TRUMP in the generals .
Imagine how msm , rats and liberal pubbies ( establishment ) would rip apart CRUZ if ( pure hypothesis ) he was the nominee .... He is only a tool .....so far ....
If Cruz doesn't back this, it means that he's not even serious about winning the nomination, but rather he's running just to give the RNC the brokered convention it needs to get one of its own in.
However, as taxcontrol said, supporting this rule would be purely symbolic, the candidates don't get any say, the delegates do. And if the delegates are mostly RNC hacks, they'll change the rule no matter what Cruz says.
Buchanan can volunteer to assist negotiations, without pay. A “charity think tank thing” going is unlikely to trump Pat’s free speech, surely.
Hate to say it, but it ain’t gonna happen.
I, for one, am looking forward to the destruction of the Republican Party and the building of something new on its smoking ruins.
Yash, I’m amazed at the percentage who couldn’t even see the logic of this. I like to think it’s because they were blinded by their support of their own candidate.
I’m afraid it’s because they couldn’t even understand it.
Cruz hasn’t got a snowball’s chance in hell in the general. The more conservative you are, the more likable you have to be. That’s why Reagan won — he was the most conservative candidate since Goldwater, but unlike Goldwater, he was a helluva nice guy. Compared to Cruz, though, Goldwater was someone you wanted to drink beer and watch football with all weekend long. Cruz is a thoroughly unlikable person — a phony, arrogant jerk, an insufferable a-hole. Even though the days of Goldwater, McGovern, and Mondale landslide defeats are apparently long gone, Detestable Ted will still get a shellacking. Even by Sanders, if that came to pass.
he is a very persuasive orator and I have no doubt he will advocate for conservative positions that I believe in very effectively.
It has nothing to do with his political positions. I find him a particularly odious person, an unfortunate type that I’ve come across before. You may be suckered in by his hammy oratory skills, but I’m not. He sounds like a complete and total phony. In fact, I think he’ll do more damage to conservative causes than good.
Whether or not Cruz agrees to this will heavily factor in to his political future.
If he attempts to genuinely mend ties with Trump and genuinely disassociate himself from the GOP-e, he will have excellent chances of winning in 2020 or 2024.
I still believe the strongest ticket would be a Trump/Cruz ticket, but both sides are so polarized that they can barely speak to one another.
I’ll admit that I’ve gotten really peeved with Cruz at some times, but I’ll also admit that his and Trump’s policies/proposals are the closest to each other.
I’m in complete agreement with you. Cruz’s pro-GOP-e actions are inexcusable if taken at face value, but there is another interesting possibility. What if Cruz and Trump have formed a secret alliance, and are having Cruz pretend to be GOP-e so that the GOP-e would ignore the other candidates? After all, Cruz does have a solid history of conservative legislation.
We know that the GOP-e would never select Cruz to be their nominee, and we also know that Cruz voters and Trump voters combined will absolutely squash the votes of any GOP-e candidate. The GOP-e attempts to woo Cruz over to force a brokered convention, and abandons the idea of Rube-o or Kasich winning the nomination legitimately. Cruz then stabs them in the back either through Rule 40 or by instantly dropping out and pledging all of his delegates to Trump. Many of these delegates would even be unwitting GOP-e rubes! If he went on to fire Neil Bush and the rest of the GOP-e in his camp, the GOP-e is further humiliated and marginalized.
I doubt that theory is true, but if it turns out to be then Cruz would get all of my respect.
Cruz won’t do it. He is a GOPe Puppet.
And if DT does not, what does that mean? He didn’t get the news from Time?
How is Time involved?
Cruz/Trump
Trump/Cruz
Either way we cannot lose (to the GOPe and socialists)
Trump’s business acumen
Cruz’s constitutional prowess
After all, politics has always had a ying/yang element.
DT said that is where he gets his news. He was probably just giving them a plug for all his good press.
“He was probably just giving them a plug for all his good press.”
I think he does a lot of that.
I still believe the strongest ticket would be a Trump/Cruz ticket
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If this ticket happened tomorrow, the bitterness between them will fade very quickly. I think if Trump promises Cruz 1-term the deal could happen.
A one term deal would certainly get Cruz’s attention.
I’d have to think about it.
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