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Should Trump and Cruz unite with we the people against the establishment uni-party?

Posted on 03/16/2016 1:31:00 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

The biggest plus is a Trump/Cruz ticket would immediately secure the nomination for us (the majority of the right-leaning grassroots voters), end any possibility of a GOPe betrayal at the convention, and would ensure the Republican party is finally with we the grassroots people (tea party, conservatives, religious people, economic conservatives, business people, middle class, blue collar, national security patriots, etc, ie, a rebirth of the Reagan Coalition) and against the globalist GOP big government establishment. It’d be a yuuuge middle finger to the elite ruling classes of both parties.

And it would have coattails guaranteeing a pro-America landslide against the America-hating Marxists and a strengthening of the Republican majority in the congress and in local and state governments. And finally begin a return to constitutional, pro-America, pro-free-market government and a reversal of the slide into godless socialism and globalism.

A mandate from we the people to secure the borders, enforce the law, deport the illegals, end sanctuary cities, end the war on Christianity, cut the taxes, cut the government, cut the regulations, end the war on American industry, end the war on coal gas & oil, bring back a growing economy, bring back manufacturing and jobs, and rebuild the military.

Unlike the GOPe, this is what real Americans want and what both candidates propose doing.

So let’s quit bickering, join forces, and make it happen.


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To: JediJones
Trump’s past positions are for AWB and socialized medicine and his current position is government-paid health coverage doled out like food stamps for everybody who “needs” it.

I'm not delighted with the way he has spoken about his health plan; as noted above, he is often inarticulate when speaking off-the-cuff. My take from what he has said is that he would use government to redesign a package of regulations that would remove Obamacare and support the private sector then being able to compete for healthcare insurance business across state lines. The competition would drive down costs and government's role would then be more of just the watchdog to drive out unlawful price-fixing. The businesses themselves would have to drive out waste and make competitive offerings.

As for AWB, there has been a widespread misunderstanding of the term promulgated in the press and the anti-gun movement that saturated the issue some years ago. That misunderstanding as to what consitutes an AWB is currently in the process of being refined. I think most reasonable people would like a ban on certain high-capacity weaponry in the hands of certain individuals like the mentally ill, and I believe this type of restriction what he tried inexactly to articulate. But as for responsible ownership, ccw and sports use, he has been to the wall supportive.


No President should “rebuild the private sector.” That’s liberal Keynesian theory, stimulus packages, which Obama and the Democrats love...and also Trump!

No, that's not what I meant by those words, and not what Trump said or meant. What he means is to remove restrictions and correct imbalances that are now strangling and overregulating the private sector, burdening it with costs and waste and preventing innovation, hiring, profitability and growth. In effect, he wants the private sector to be able to rebuild itself through organic market forces by removing boondoggle regulation, correcting the trade imbalances and also finding ways to encourage business investments within this country instead of offshoring.

As for your comments about the banking crisis, this is not my field of expertise, so I'm not going to comment except to say that the quotes you pulled out referred to a specific banking crisis at a specific time with a specific set of circumstances. They were hindsight comments, not an abstract ideology of what must be done in his opinion for all time. Our system is so distorted, so far from free-market capitalism at this time, that he may have been speaking of a halfway measure necessary at the time, but not desirable as a long-term policy. As I say, not my field. My field is language, and what is actually said vs what those words might or might not have implied or affirmed.

401 posted on 03/16/2016 7:47:22 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Who can actually defeat the Democrats in 2016? -- the most important thing about all candidates.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I don’t think it will happen.


402 posted on 03/16/2016 7:48:12 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: PJBankard

“That is the point I’m making.”

Yes, I understood that. I have some strong feelings about not wanting the GOPe to back me into yet another corner with flawed and even unlawful candidates. I was more than a little surprised by the even more strongly felt quiet determination of these voters to refuse being forced to hold their nose yet one more time. We had quite a conversation going on in the room about all of this. They made it crystal clear they are ready to quit the Republican Party rather than be forced to do it again the way they were forced to with the Bush, McCain, Romney, Cruz, and Rubio candidates. There is a major problem in this community with trying to raise funds to keep a Republican office open, recruit volunteers, and raise campaign funds for the Republican Party. This topic was discussed in our caucus, and the voters are upset with the GOP for not taking their warnings about pulling their support seriously. These voters, at least, are very serious about punishing the Republican Party. Trump happens to be benefiting by serving as a surrogate messenger for their message of determined opposition for any more business as usual. Cruz is still benefiting from using a similar message, but only among the voters who have not yet decided Cruz cannot be trusted.


403 posted on 03/16/2016 7:48:56 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: Jim Robinson

Cruz played the race card and is untrustworthy, no.


404 posted on 03/16/2016 7:49:08 PM PDT by niki
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To: JediJones
OL, keep smoking the good stuff.

You are having reading comprehension issues.

405 posted on 03/16/2016 7:53:05 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Who can actually defeat the Democrats in 2016? -- the most important thing about all candidates.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Super O/T.. just discovered Brit Floyd on PBS Live in Amsterdam. Holy smokes.


406 posted on 03/16/2016 7:55:28 PM PDT by txhurl (Unity: we can take ALL the marbles now. It's now or never.)
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To: Arthur McGowan

I know Bush was GOPe, but did not know about the other stuff. That’s horrible if true. Hope not but politics can be ugly. That is bad...really bad.

I just saw an article that Cruz does not want to accept the VP position.


407 posted on 03/16/2016 8:09:53 PM PDT by make no mistake
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To: Jim Robinson

“Thank you very much, but this is not about Cruz. Or Trump. It’s about the survival of our nation.”

The voters are often opposed to Ted Cruz, because they are convinced he is is a threat to the survival or our nation. Whether rightly or wrongly, some of the voters in our caucus directly linked Ted Cruz to the Bush Administrations nomination of John Roberts as Chief Justice of the Supreme Court and his role in preserving Obamacare. These voters also voiced their concern about his wife’s relationships with the CFR and Goldman Sachs. Ted Cruz is losing the argument and support of the voters due to his actions and campaign rhetoric. The voters are so incensed against these relationships, they have flatly stated they would rather waste their vote for an Independent or not vote at all, rather than yet again compromise to benefit any candidate with the relationships and rhetoric Ted Cruz has adopted. Given that kind of deep and abiding opposition to the whole field of perceived GOPe candidates and officials, it appears the inclusion of Cruz in any administration will do far more to alienate and divide the voters, Republican and non-Republican, more than it can hope to unite against the DNC.


408 posted on 03/16/2016 8:14:54 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: make no mistake

Cruz said he did not want to be VP to Trump because he thinks Trump will lose.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2016/03/16/ted-cruz-i-have-zero-interest-in-being-trumps-vp-because-hillary-will-beat-him-n2134473


409 posted on 03/16/2016 8:33:03 PM PDT by make no mistake
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To: Albion Wilde

[[You’re blaming Trump because Cruz’s eligibility is unclear?]]

That’s not what i said- I am saying he will not consider cruz now because he got the ball rolling about the eligibility issue and it can’t be unrolled now because too many peopel now have questions about his eligibiity and they will never even accept court rulings stating he is eligible because they are now convinced he isn’t eligible- and just for the record, that is not all trump has said abotu Ted regarding this issue- He’s called him an anchor baby, called him a Canadian etc-

[[And the questions about his eligibility are a matter of fact, not just some nasty rumor Trump made up.]]

No sir- Donald has turned it into a nasty rumor based quite frankly on something that Larry tribe, the fella trump used to bring this up in the first place- never said- Larry even believes Ted is eligible, what Larry said was that Cruz would have a hard time IF Ted were to use the ‘strict original ism’ that Ted advocates in other issues- that is a far far different thign than saying Ted is ineligible, which is what Trump said and insinuated and even insinuated that Larry said- From what i understand of the whoel issue, Larry never said Ted was ineligible - and Trump misrepresented what Larry was saying to be honest about the issue-


410 posted on 03/16/2016 8:34:31 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: Puppage

No!


411 posted on 03/16/2016 8:38:04 PM PDT by 2rightsleftcoast
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To: Bob434

Tribe said it was not a settled matter as Cruz claimed.


412 posted on 03/16/2016 8:40:13 PM PDT by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

I like the RICK Santorum idea.


413 posted on 03/16/2016 8:42:56 PM PDT by 2rightsleftcoast
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To: Jim Robinson

[[But John Kasich possesses delusions of grandeur of being on stage in Cleveland, Ohio at the RNC convention in July and accepting the GOP nomination for president. ]]

I believe it’s slimier than that- I think he thinks he has a chance to sneak in under the radar as it were- to sneak in against the will of the people by begin nominated by the powers that be in the GOP after the people, the voters, have spoken and declared they don’t want him- only a weasel who thinks the GOP will coddle him into position would stay in, knowing that the country has made it clear they don’t want him


414 posted on 03/16/2016 8:44:25 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: PJBankard

“I’m not doubting that Cruz is a goon especially due to his recent actions, “

I’m not doubting that Trump is a goon especially due to his recent actions,

See how easy it is to make idiotic statements?


415 posted on 03/16/2016 8:47:02 PM PDT by DaxtonBrown (wrote Harry Reid.s only biography www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: Arthur McGowan

“There are no Trump sex scandals.”

Bwahahahaha. He has admitted to sleeping with other men’s wives. He is on trophy wife 3. Blind ignorance.


416 posted on 03/16/2016 8:50:25 PM PDT by DaxtonBrown (wrote Harry Reid.s only biography www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: Jim Robinson

Cruz would cost the cross over vote. What about Rand Paul or Judge Napolitano?


417 posted on 03/16/2016 8:52:46 PM PDT by niki
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To: DaxtonBrown

How is that a scandal? Trump has never claimed to be holier than thou, he’s never claimed to be perfect. Since we all have heard this multiple times, are we supposed to be shocked? Not support him? What?


418 posted on 03/16/2016 9:00:02 PM PDT by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: Jim Robinson
Yes Yes Yes, Hell Yes, go for it.

Cruz is my dude but Trump Cruz is many many times better than the same old pieces of garbage that the GOPe has given us in the past, with the exception of Ronald Reagan.

Even more important a Trump Cruz or Cruz Trump ticket will break the back of the “go along get along” GOPe. The Democrats will drive off the cliff at 100 miles an hour, the GOPe only does it at 85 MPH. The GOPe is not our friend.

Support Cruz but if he can not win, support Trump. The revolution has only just begun.

God save our great nation and the Constitution.

419 posted on 03/16/2016 9:02:51 PM PDT by cpdiii (DECKHAND, ROUGHNECK, MUDMAN GEOLOGIST PILOT PHARMACIST LIBERTARIAN, CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR)
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To: Solson
I like it but I don’t think Cruz can set aside his ego to let it happen. We will see. It would be great for both the country and the party.

He loves our great nation, he can and will if he is not the candidate.

420 posted on 03/16/2016 9:06:04 PM PDT by cpdiii (DECKHAND, ROUGHNECK, MUDMAN GEOLOGIST PILOT PHARMACIST LIBERTARIAN, CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR)
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