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Ohio's 'dirty little secret': blue-collar Democrats for Trump
REUTERS ^ | March 10, 2016 | TIM REID

Posted on 03/10/2016 5:05:09 AM PST by McGruff

If Donald Trump wins the Republican Party nomination, his path to the White House will run through this working-class city with a knack for picking presidents.

No Republican has ever won the White House without Ohio. And nowhere better reflects the challenges and opportunities Trump faces in his 2016 presidential quest than Canton, a once-booming industrial city that, like Ohio and the rest of America’s rust belt, is going through profound economic and demographic change.

Canton, a gritty northeastern Ohio city where the once-dominant steel industry has been in decline for 20 years, is the heart of Stark County, a political bellwether that, save twice, has picked every winning presidential candidate since 1964.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: 2016election; economy; election; election2016; elections; jobs; newyork; ohio; trump
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"No Republican has ever won the White House without Ohio."
1 posted on 03/10/2016 5:05:09 AM PST by McGruff
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To: McGruff

Here’s another interesting semi-secret. A lot of those votes have already been cast for Trump, back when they changed their party affiliation.


2 posted on 03/10/2016 5:06:26 AM PST by grania
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To: McGruff

I doubt that statement “No Republican has ever won the White House without Ohio” is a fact.


3 posted on 03/10/2016 5:07:56 AM PST by Mechanicos
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To: McGruff

Cruz has no cross over appeal whatsoever. Teddy would lose worse than his a-hole buddy, Romney.


4 posted on 03/10/2016 5:12:59 AM PST by patq (A Vote for the New & Improved Ted Cruz is a Vote for the Same Old Establishment)
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To: McGruff

“No Republican has ever won the White House without Ohio.”

And Polls show Trump beats Hillary in OH.

And polls shows Cruz loses to Hitlery in OH.


5 posted on 03/10/2016 5:16:17 AM PST by JPJones
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To: McGruff

Though I prefer Cruz, I continue to say that there will be a tremendous cross-over vote if Trump is the nominee.

There isn’t much enthusiasm for Hillary among the Dem rank-and-file, and the powers-that-be won’t allow Bernie to win.

My belief is that any Repub can beat Hillary, but if its Trump it will be massive. Vote fraud may hide just how massive it is, but it will be massive. If Cruz is the nominee, we win. If its Trump we win big.

We can’t afford to sit on our laurels, obviously. The DNC isn’t going to go down without a fight, and massive vote fraud is a permanent part of their tool kit. Expect it this time. Hillary of course has other tools too; there isn’t much she isn’t willing to do.


6 posted on 03/10/2016 5:17:30 AM PST by marron
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To: Mechanicos

You are correct. Dewey and Nixon both won Ohio.


7 posted on 03/10/2016 5:17:51 AM PST by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: Mechanicos

Coffey, Daniel J., John C. Green, David B. Cohen and Stephen C. Brooks. 2011. Buckeye Battleground: Ohio, Campaigns and Elections in the Twenty-First Century. Akron, OH: University of Akron Press

‘tis true


8 posted on 03/10/2016 5:19:24 AM PST by babble-on
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To: CaptainK

The sentence did not say that every Republican who has won Ohio has won the presidency. It said that no Republican has won the presidency without winning Ohio.

Winning Ohio is thus a “necessary, but not sufficient” part of winning the White House for a Republican according to this theory.


9 posted on 03/10/2016 5:22:08 AM PST by babble-on
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To: McGruff

Is Ohio an open or closed primary state?


10 posted on 03/10/2016 5:27:00 AM PST by Russ (Repeal the '17th amendment.)
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To: babble-on

I’m an Ohioan, but while the ‘not without Ohio’ is true, it fails to recognize that Ohio goes with the nation in overwhelming victories and in landslides.

In CLOSE elections, Ohioans make the difference because of the electoral college route that normally takes place.

If Trump can bring in a New Jersey, a New York, a Michigan, or a Pennsylvania, then that electoral college path has been changed.

IF there’s ever been a year when that is possible, then this is that year if Trump gets the nomination.


11 posted on 03/10/2016 5:35:37 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Prayer for Victory is the ONLY way to support the troops!)
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To: McGruff

I was just there, and yes, I think Trump would clean house in Ohio.


12 posted on 03/10/2016 5:42:48 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: McGruff; ADemocratNoMore; Akron Al; arbee4bush; agrace; ATOMIC_PUNK; Badeye; Bikers4Bush; ...

Ohio Ping

Cast your vote on or before March 15 in Ohio


13 posted on 03/10/2016 5:46:12 AM PST by Whenifhow
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To: McGruff

These same Democrats (nationally) will return Congress to the Democrats if they go to the polls in November.


14 posted on 03/10/2016 5:51:43 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Obama is more supportive of Iran's right to defend its territorial borders than he is of the USA's.)
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To: xzins

Well, Trump is not going to win New York, and NJ is a long-shot, too. But putting Pennsylvania in play is real. Still, it would be very hard to win the White House while losing Ohio. The map just doesn’t really work without you guys.

So are you saying you think it’s not likely that Trump wins OH?
What if Kasich were his VP ? Would that help or hurt?


15 posted on 03/10/2016 5:54:25 AM PST by babble-on
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To: Mechanicos

General election by state:

http://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/
Blue is Republican on these maps because he generated his maps before the 2000 election ‘switch’ where the ‘journolists’
colluded to forever codify “Red state” as Republican (as the Democrat party pushed a Red Pinko Socialist agenda nationally).


16 posted on 03/10/2016 5:55:17 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Obama is more supportive of Iran's right to defend its territorial borders than he is of the USA's.)
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To: CaptainK

Winning Ohio may not guaranty winning the White House, not winning Ohio (for Republicans) can be equated with not winning the White House (for Republicans).


17 posted on 03/10/2016 5:58:35 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Obama is more supportive of Iran's right to defend its territorial borders than he is of the USA's.)
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To: babble-on

If restricted to the normal pathway to victory, then Trump has to make a case to win Ohio in the general. I think Hillary is reviled in Ohio, but I thought Obama would be rejected, and he wasn’t.

If Trump has Kasich as VP, then Ohio in the general would be easy.

BUT, I DO think that NY will be in play. Trump is a real New Yorker, he has street cred in NY, and New York governors have regularly been republican.

So, against a wounded Clinton, I think he has a chance to win New York. Definitely New Jersey, Pennsylvania, and Michigan.


18 posted on 03/10/2016 6:08:53 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Prayer for Victory is the ONLY way to support the troops!)
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To: a fool in paradise

“if Trump gets the nomination.”.........

“If”, a tiny word with soooooooooooo much power and meaning.


19 posted on 03/10/2016 6:08:55 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: JPJones
And Polls show Trump beats Hillary in OH. And polls shows Cruz loses to Hitlery in OH.

That's the problem with national poll forecasts about anyone versus anyone in the general election.

They over represent states that are overwhelmingly big and overwhelmingly democratic.

In a general election, polls should be state by state and electoral votes tallied.

20 posted on 03/10/2016 6:11:34 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Prayer for Victory is the ONLY way to support the troops!)
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