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Two points regarding this article:

1. Whenever geneticists talk about "manipulating" or "switching on" things, I get nervous about them playing God. "Paging Dr. Mengele. Dr. Mengele, please pick up the White Courtesy Phone."

2. The fact that someone's intelligence is largely genetic has been proven time and again by researchers, this is simply the latest study published.

Intelligence is different from wisdom. Some people have IQs off the charts, but they are wicked people. The reverse is also true. True wisdom and discernment come from God.

"The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom, and knowledge of the Holy One is understanding." Proverbs 9:10

Intelligence is also a gift from God. He gives each of us different gifts. Some of us are given incredible beauty, some are given athletic ability, some are given musical talent, some are given higher intellect.

Where these discussion always get ugly quickly is when someone makes the logical connection that some races of human beings (who more closely share genetic code within their race). Dr. Charles Murry and Dr. Richard Herrnstein found this out when they published the book "The Bell Curve" in 1994.

So did Dr. Richard Lynn and Dr. Tatu Vanhanen when they published "IQ and the Wealth of Nations" in 2002.


1 posted on 12/22/2015 4:43:59 AM PST by SkyPilot
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Apologize for the typo. It should have read:

Where these discussion always get ugly quickly is when someone makes the logical connection that some races of human beings consistently demonstrate higher IQ scores in almost every reliable test than do other races.

2 posted on 12/22/2015 4:47:46 AM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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the genes in the discussion are the gift of which you speak

———when the genes are mutated or in the wrong order——

they got this part wrong. lack of intelligence is likely the norm and the mutations produced increased intelligence


4 posted on 12/22/2015 4:53:19 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;+12, 73, ....carson is the kinder gentler trump.)
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bump


5 posted on 12/22/2015 4:55:54 AM PST by gattaca (Republicans believe every day is July 4, democrats believe every day is April 15. Ronald Reagan)
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100% straight-up racialistic racialisms!!!!


6 posted on 12/22/2015 4:59:06 AM PST by IChing
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7 posted on 12/22/2015 5:01:52 AM PST by meatloaf
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The problem is that our society has come to place too high a value on intellectual acumen while ignoring the value of other character traits and other gifts and abilities that do not translate directly into intellectual prowess.

We’ve devalued much of what makes a person and exalted only one aspect of what makes a human being a human being.

It’s wreaked havoc on our society and people’s lives.


10 posted on 12/22/2015 5:09:49 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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At the risk of being called a racist (which is something one does these days simply by ordering a taco), is it possible that the genes for intelligence are stronger in some races than in others, which would account for the continuing disparity in success rates between those groups, despite countless trillions of dollars and decades spent trying to erase a biological reality?


11 posted on 12/22/2015 5:11:13 AM PST by IronJack
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I’ve always chuckled at the graphs showing comparative IQ’s for groups, by ethnicity. My modest 135 IQ, while nothing to sneer at overall, makes me a freakin Einstein among “my fellow hispanics”...


16 posted on 12/22/2015 5:42:39 AM PST by Paradox (Not on the Trump Bandwagon, but I do enjoy the show.)
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Now we will have selective abortions to go with it . Quality of life you know.


19 posted on 12/22/2015 5:51:07 AM PST by Norm Lenhart
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My bet is that this study will be shown to be bogus just like every other study that pretended to find behavioral genes.


20 posted on 12/22/2015 5:53:29 AM PST by Seruzawa (All those memories will be lost,in time, like tears in rain.)
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Graphic makes no sense - Australia, Denmark, France, and Mongolia are wealthier than the US, but all have the same 98 IQ?


21 posted on 12/22/2015 6:48:22 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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The left is always accusing US of being anti science.

Lets see how much they accept this science.


22 posted on 12/22/2015 6:50:21 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, & R)
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All this is great, but how about finding out how to Heal/CURE TBI (Traumatic Brain Injury) Victims?
23 posted on 12/22/2015 7:00:13 AM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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I’ve often wondered about these IQ measurements vs. race etc. Specifically, I wonder if IQ tests perhaps measure problem solving of a particular sort and that perhaps the variations in results are really because people of different races solve problems in different ways. Your thoughts?


24 posted on 12/22/2015 7:11:05 AM PST by libertylover (The problem with Obama is not that his skin is too black, it's that his ideas are too RED.)
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'Intelligence genes discovered to be smarty pants'.


26 posted on 12/22/2015 7:28:16 AM PST by BlueDragon (TheHildbeast is so bad, purty near anybody should beat her. And that's saying something)
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Intelligence is also a gift from God....

I don't know about the part of it being a gift from God, but I don't want to get into any long drawn out arguments about it though, other then to say there will be many individuals that when they reach the judgement seat of God they will be sent to hell because they did not have saving faith in Jesus Christ which is a gift from God. Having just said what I just said can't see intellect as being a gift from God, maybe a blessing but I have a tendency to not even believe that.

If it is a blessing it probably is more of a blessing that is giving indirectly to many individuals through the medium of one individual. Basically God using one individual(that really isn't blessed) to bless others down the line of history that are part of a greater or real blessing. I would like to get into my reasoning more but I think I will leave it at my short comment or feeble attempt to explain my thoughts on the subject at hand, and hope some one understands what I'm trying to say.

29 posted on 12/22/2015 7:48:33 AM PST by ReformedBeckite (1 of 3 I'm only allowing my self each day)
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The problem with "IQ and the Wealth of Nations" is that where they had no data they just made it up.
33 posted on 12/22/2015 8:06:52 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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manipulating” or “switching on” things
I think they are referring to what I call trying to make chicken salad out of chicken s**t. Just won’t work.


45 posted on 12/22/2015 12:54:50 PM PST by Recompennation
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Worms.
Can.

Big ass!


47 posted on 12/22/2015 2:33:45 PM PST by djf ("It's not about being nice, it's about being competent!" - Donald Trump)
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***** “75 per cent of IQ is genetic” *****

Son Nuclear Power-plant Operator
Daughter Linguistic Anthropologist, Historian, Author
Daughter Theoretical Mathematician, Statistical Mathematician

Me = salesman
So the Wife must have cheated on me a few times... gonna be an interesting conversation ;^)


50 posted on 12/22/2015 9:22:50 PM PST by TexasTransplant (Idiocracy used to just be a Movie... Live every day as your last...one day you will be right)
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