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New Des Moines Register Iowa Poll – Ted Cruz Jumps Staggering 21 Points and Leads with 31%…
Conservative Treehouse ^ | 12/12/15 | Sundance

Posted on 12/12/2015 4:56:15 PM PST by Amntn

According to the latest Des Moines Register Poll, (full pdf below) of 400 Republican caucus goers, candidate Ted Cruz has surged into the lead with 31% support - a gain of 21 points since DMR's previous polling:

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa; US: New York; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2016election; 2016polls; alreadyposted; canadian; demagogicparty; desmoines; desmoinesregister; election; election2016; ia2016; iowa; memebuilding; newyork; partisanmediashill; partisanmediashills; tedcruz; texas; trump; trumpwasright
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To: Amntn

Except that Iowa Republicans don’t want a hothead to be leader of the free world.


41 posted on 12/12/2015 5:38:23 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Trump to McCain - "Pass the strawberries".)
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To: dforest
CNN poll had Trump 13 points up. Weird..not really. LOL

As Trumpsters would say "CNN. Really?" if someone besides Trump was in the lead.

42 posted on 12/12/2015 5:39:29 PM PST by Starstruck (I'm usually sarcastic. Deal with it.)
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To: Amntn

Des Moiunes Register has a couple of editors that are so anti-Trump, they should be exposed in an infomercial of their track record of bias and fabrication. They are disgusting.

And I say this as one who is glad to see Cruz rise, but unfortunately, it’s all fake just as it was for Carson. The problem is that it will end up damaging Ted if he’s not careful. Of course he wants to win but he should be very circumspect and not allow himself to be used by the GOPe as a wedge to drive into conservatives.

If Ted thinks he will win Iowa, the GOPe will turn on him so quick and he will be taken down. I don’t want to see that. I want to see Donald and Ted united against the GOPe and the democrats. It’s a fact that Donald draws more demographic groups than Ted, and Ted should be aware of that reality. He doesn’t have to throw in the towel but he should keep the bigger picture of what Rove et al are plotting to do.

Ted may experience euphoria at a biased poll in Iowa but so did Carson and look where Carson is today. This can damage Ted. The GOPe sits waiting for damage to occur either to Donald or Ted; they think they can’t go wrong. Meanwhile, Cruz supporters are played as fools.

Ted’s in a real bind here because he must tell those who back him with SuperPACS that he’s in it to win it, and then he must show them the Iowa poll. He can’t say to them the poll is misleading. So he has to act like it represents reality which it does not. This puts him into a similar position that Carson recently found himself.

I wasn’t grieving when Carson was taken down, but I will be if Ted is taken down. I want Ted to do well but only in 2nd place and not because I don’t support him, but because 1st place for him is not real, it is manufactured with a specific aim in mind. He simply doesn’t pull the same groups that Donald does that are more broad and representative of the electorate. Ted can beat Hillary but it can be close, too close for comfort, whereas Donald can blow her out.


43 posted on 12/12/2015 5:40:48 PM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: WENDLE
This poll is made up . Trump at 33%!! and rising!!

Did you check with your two friends to come up with this percentage?

44 posted on 12/12/2015 5:41:29 PM PST by Starstruck (I'm usually sarcastic. Deal with it.)
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To: Cats Pajamas
Not buying this poll.

Trump didn't have enough money to buy this one? Maybe Forbes was right.

45 posted on 12/12/2015 5:43:08 PM PST by Starstruck (I'm usually sarcastic. Deal with it.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Trump has commanding leads on each issue...except for the “touchy-feely” issues that metrosexuals like you embrace.

LOL!


46 posted on 12/12/2015 5:43:56 PM PST by newfreep (TRUMP/Cruz 2016 - "Evil succeeds when good men do nothing" - Edmund Burke)
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To: entropy12

There are a LOT of good political reasons for Cruz to dismiss this poll. This is not good for him.
Though the real situation is probably reflected in it if the MOE is utilized.


47 posted on 12/12/2015 5:45:25 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: Starstruck

Get over it. Eat prunes.


48 posted on 12/12/2015 5:46:23 PM PST by dforest
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To: libbylu

Ya know what libbylu?

You aren’t doing anything to help your candidate with your constant posts bashing and trashing Trump.

I supported Ted before I switched to Trump. I switched to Trump because I thought and still think that he is the only one ready to step in and do whatever needs to be done.

I still continued to donate to Cruz even after I switched to Trump because I wanted him to stay in and I was hoping he would be VP.

Last month I finally had enough of you and a few others posting lies and distortions about Trump, insulting his supporters at every turn and stopped my monthly donation to Cruz.

And don’t think I am the only one to do this. I have had several people here tell me their experience matched mine.

So you and the others can continue with your snark and insults but you need to realize what you are costing your candidate.


49 posted on 12/12/2015 5:46:54 PM PST by Amntn
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To: tennmountainman
The only thing I get out of polls in Iowa is how fk’ed up Iowa voters are. They are easily swayed one way or another.

Not all candidates are as high profile as Trump. Getting to know the people who are running is what campaigning is all about. Walker was in the adjacent state. Cruz is just getting introduced.

50 posted on 12/12/2015 5:46:56 PM PST by Starstruck (I'm usually sarcastic. Deal with it.)
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To: newfreep

Yeah, LOL!

anyway, thanks for those numbers, I can’t imagine how that translates into a 31 to 21 lead for Cruz.

I short, I don’t believe the poll, but I am very interested to see how Trump handles the challenge.

IA isn’t a natural market for him, far from it. I grew up in MN, and have cringed more than once at some of the things he said, and how he said them.

A new challenge for him.

He’s going to pull it out, I’m looking forward as to how.


51 posted on 12/12/2015 5:50:00 PM PST by Balding_Eagle ( (The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.))
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To: Starstruck; gov_bean_ counter

you might be interested in my post #49.


52 posted on 12/12/2015 5:50:25 PM PST by Amntn
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd
Between the two, I prefer the guy who wasn't a Hillary-supporting democrat a few years ago.

You have a point. Give any credit to someone who has the heft to sweep aside the cultural marxist paradigm?

53 posted on 12/12/2015 5:51:59 PM PST by Stentor (RIP -- Nicholas Thalasinos.)
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To: dforest
Get over it. Eat prunes.

Love prunes. They keep me regular. Nice to be able to take my daily trump.

54 posted on 12/12/2015 5:52:47 PM PST by Starstruck (I'm usually sarcastic. Deal with it.)
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To: MotorCityBuck

I think this poll’s aim is to discourage Trump who, constantly reveling in his lead in the polls, is perceived to be likely to fold when he gets significantly behind in any of them; ergo, a poll conveniently showing him significantly behind.


55 posted on 12/12/2015 5:53:33 PM PST by luvbach1 (We are finished. It will just take a while before everyone realizes it.)
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To: LowOiL

I would agree that they are probably very close.

I just found it remarkable that Trump rates so much higher on most of the things that matter and they are trying to say Ted is so far ahead.

The internals don’t match the total.


56 posted on 12/12/2015 5:53:40 PM PST by Amntn
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To: Starstruck

The biggest thing Trump had going for him was the belief that he was the only one who could defeat Hillary. The polls have shifted on that as people have been introduced to other candidates and Hillary’s negatives have Ben mounting. This is not good news for Trump as people will begin to consider his warts and look to other viable candidates.


57 posted on 12/12/2015 5:53:49 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Trump to McCain - "Pass the strawberries".)
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To: Helicondelta

From what I have read, only their final poll results are reliable.


58 posted on 12/12/2015 5:54:34 PM PST by Amntn
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To: Starstruck

Iowa has not been good indicator of who wins nomination.
Huckabee & Santorum both won Iowa.

That makes sense, since barely 5% of Iowans bother to spend better part of a day to attend a caucus.

Even NH is not a a good indicator.

SC has been a much better indicator for the eventual winner.


59 posted on 12/12/2015 5:55:10 PM PST by entropy12 (Go Trump 2016!)
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To: entropy12

Right. I read an article on the pollster they use earlier today and she said she relies heavily on known caucus goers.


60 posted on 12/12/2015 5:56:00 PM PST by Amntn
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