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Trump: As president, I will mandate the death penalty for anyone who kills a police officer
Hot Air ^ | 12/11/2015 | Allahpundit

Posted on 12/11/2015 11:28:14 AM PST by BAW

From last night's speech to the New England Police Benevolent Association, which voted to endorse him. Rarely can you tell whether a new Trump policy idea was gamed out beforehand or just something he came up with on the fly while in front of a mic, and this is no exception. His advisor, Dan Scavino, tweeted it out after Trump said it, though, so if it wasn't official campaign policy before, I guess it is now.

Is it worth critiquing this? Krauthammer’s ready to give up on arguing against Trump policies, partly because they're all obviously political panders rather than serious proposals and partly because pointing out that the policy is dumb and/or illegal only seems to make Trump fans want to spite the critic by embracing the idea more tightly. Besides, anyone who's been following the last few years of Obama's executive overreach already sees the problems here. For starters, cop-killer prosecutions usually fall under state, not federal, jurisdiction. Nineteen states have abolished the death penalty entirely, including Trump's home state of New York. The idea that the president can dictate to a state how it should punish its criminals is a kick in the nuts to federalism so sharp that even Obama wouldn't try it

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To: BAW

A: It’s largely a state matter.
B: No one’s life is more valuable than mine based on who their employer is.


61 posted on 12/11/2015 12:04:51 PM PST by Demiurge2 (Define your terms!)
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To: dem bums

Technically it is a state matter. But as we have seen a president can apply pressure that at least the murderer gets hell raining down on him.

Trump made that statement. Let’s see what he has in mind. There is a lot a president can do to make life miserable for criminals like this.


62 posted on 12/11/2015 12:05:40 PM PST by GilGil
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To: BAW

For those that thought Obama was out of control with his use of the executive order, prepare.

trump will make obama look like a piker when it comes to the use of EOs.


63 posted on 12/11/2015 12:05:58 PM PST by dmz
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To: servo1969

If its a federal “cop”, yes. Not some much for a state though.


64 posted on 12/11/2015 12:06:11 PM PST by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: dem bums
I think the most a President could do through an executive order would be to direct U.S. Attorneys to prosecute every LEO murder in which there is Federal jurisdiction, and to seek the death penalty in each such case. I'd fully support that, and that would send a strong message of support to all LEOs. But, as a practical matter, it wouldn't lead to many prosecutions, since most LEO murders are not within Federal jurisdiction.

* Ding, ding, ding *

Unlike Trump, you have correctly identified the limited power a president has in this matter.

65 posted on 12/11/2015 12:06:41 PM PST by gdani (Government surveillance - the topic no candidate dare mention)
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To: dmz
trump will make obama look like a piker when it comes to the use of EOs.

I want a president who acts less like a tyrant via executive orders, not more.

66 posted on 12/11/2015 12:07:51 PM PST by gdani (Government surveillance - the topic no candidate dare mention)
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To: Marcella

Your post has a lot of projection and opinion in it...I will give you that.

*******

The constitution and laws are important. They are there to stop anyone from making their own laws. Someone should tell Trump that.


Let the boss explain it, to you....

An executive order is not a law.

37 posted on December 11, 2015 at 1:50:24 PM CST by Jim Robinson
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3371408/posts?page=37#37


67 posted on 12/11/2015 12:09:14 PM PST by Jane Long (Go Trump, go! Make America Safe Again :)
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To: Demiurge2
No one’s life is more valuable than mine based on who their employer is.

It's not a question of whose life is worth more. LEOs are placed in situations where their lives are in danger far more often than most other professions. The purpose of enacting harsher penalties for killing LEOs is to make it riskier for thugs to kill LEOs, in order to mitigate some of the extra danger LEOs face daily. Theoretically, at least.

68 posted on 12/11/2015 12:09:50 PM PST by dem bums
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To: Demiurge2

I agree, I also think the “hate crime” stuff is a bunch of crap. A crime is a crime.


69 posted on 12/11/2015 12:09:53 PM PST by rww
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To: Hulka
Yes, agree, his TDS is monumental.

As is the TKG (Trump Kool-Aid Guzzling).

70 posted on 12/11/2015 12:11:04 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: gdani

Executive orders are orders to the federal departments under the executive’s control. He can’t mandate anything of the courts or congress or the states, etc. As a leader he can issue strong statements and proposals. These are purposely misleading articles.


71 posted on 12/11/2015 12:18:07 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to to God!)
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To: BAW

I kind of like the Donald, but someone needs to send him a Pocket Constitution. Quick.


72 posted on 12/11/2015 12:18:12 PM PST by rightwingintelligentsia (Democrats: The perfect party for the helpless and stupid, and those who would rule over them.)
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To: gdani

>> I don’t think Trump understands the overwhelming majority of such cases are handled by state courts (over which the president has zero control).

Well, that’s how it is now. Trump could change it. And make Mexico pay.


73 posted on 12/11/2015 12:18:58 PM PST by Lisbon1940 (No full-term governors)
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To: Jane Long

An executive order is not a law, I know that, but doubt Trump knows it, that was my point.


74 posted on 12/11/2015 12:19:32 PM PST by Marcella (CRUZ (Prepping can save your life today.))
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To: circlecity
The current occupant of the White House is constantanly interjecting his opinions and AG against the police. Even though he may not have such clout, it's nice to know there is support of our Police Officer's.
75 posted on 12/11/2015 12:20:01 PM PST by beethoven
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To: BAW; All

Just so FReepers are aware, since the states have never delegated to the feds, expressly via the Constitution, the specific power to decide policy for local police departments, the federal government has no constitutional authority to support what Trump is promising about the death penalty in this context imo.

Insights welcome.

Trump may be doing some carefully thought out politicking.


76 posted on 12/11/2015 12:22:21 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: Marcella

There’s a lot that all of the candidates ‘don’t know’, I’m sure.

For example, Ted Cruz recently said he wasn’t aware of the Disney H-B1 Visa folks taking jobs of Americans (that the Americans had to TRAIN their foreign replacements for). It was BIG news, here, and elsewhere.

So, I guess we can’t fault Trump for what you imagine he’ll do, as President (the rest of your ‘point’/post)...for not ‘knowing’ that.


77 posted on 12/11/2015 12:24:23 PM PST by Jane Long (Go Trump, go! Make America Safe Again :)
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To: servo1969

This is Trump showing his big government, statist, dictatorial self again. He’s ignorant just like the low-info voters who support him and think the President can snap his fingers and dictate that anything he wants gets done.


78 posted on 12/11/2015 12:28:20 PM PST by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: BAW

When Trump says he was just supporting #BlueLivesMatter and goes on to add that the press and broken congress has no problem with “Obama’s mandates”, his ratings will go even higher and the establishment will go even crazier.
We should know this is mostly show and a real steel jawed trap.


79 posted on 12/11/2015 12:30:52 PM PST by Steamburg (Other people's money is the only language a politician respects)
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To: donna

Then Trump will not be mandating the death penalty in such cases, as current law already provides for it.


80 posted on 12/11/2015 12:33:30 PM PST by Milton Miteybad (I am Jim Thompson. {Really.})
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