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1 posted on 11/24/2015 5:03:03 PM PST by hole_n_one
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And the cop is charged with first degree murder?

One shot would have sufficed. Even a taser.

16 shots?


2 posted on 11/24/2015 5:04:20 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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‘Van Dyke has had 20 misconduct complaints made against him during the past 4-1/2 years, none of which led to any discipline from the Chicago Police Department, according to research by Craig Futterman, a University of Chicago law professor and expert on police accountability issues.’


3 posted on 11/24/2015 5:05:41 PM PST by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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The video does not support or condemn the 16 shots fired claim being made.

The cop was on scene less than 20 seconds before he opened fire on McDonald who appeared to be walking away from police.

4 posted on 11/24/2015 5:06:35 PM PST by hole_n_one
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If your name is Laquan, I suspect the odds that your life isn’t going to end well increase exponentially.


13 posted on 11/24/2015 5:15:01 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
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I am understanding that the dude was high on PCP. That’s a real dangerous situation.

That being said, I’m not exactly sure why they shit him at the time they shot him.

I cannot see that anyone’s life was in imminent danger, or that anyone was in danger of great bodily harm at the time of the shooting.

I also do not see the elements of 1st degree murder, but I am not sure exactly what Illinois law requires for that charge.

Anyway, I’m glad I’m not a cop, and I’m glad I don’t live in Chicago, and I don’t have any plans to use PCP and then play with knives in public.


17 posted on 11/24/2015 5:18:06 PM PST by chris37 (heartless)
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FIRST DEGREE...?

There ARE some questions, here, sure, but I’m to believe the cop PREMEDITATED this..?

That’s ridiculous, and it sounds like a prosecutor trying to kiss BLM a$s.

SMELLS LIKE FERGUSON.


21 posted on 11/24/2015 5:19:42 PM PST by gaijin
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I see that their are protests on Michigan avenue on CNN right now.
Mark my words, there will not be violence or looting anywhere near the magnificent mile or the loop. Maybe somewhere in the projects, but not Michigan Ave. Folks won’t put up with it.


28 posted on 11/24/2015 5:23:53 PM PST by cornfedcowboy
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If true, he shot this guy 16 times...he deserves prison. If it were you or I, we’d be facing charges as well. 1..2..3 the suspect prolly wouldn’t be getting up. If he did...4.


38 posted on 11/24/2015 5:29:48 PM PST by servantboy777
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The video looks really bad. I’ve only seen it once but the cop was unjustified in the shooting to begin with. The cavalry had just arrived and the guy had a knife. No civilians within striking distance and the guy was walking past and away from him. Taser would have been sufficient.


45 posted on 11/24/2015 5:32:44 PM PST by halfright (Trump / Cruz 2016 would work for me.)
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Police are trained that once they begin shooting, they empty all the rounds in there gun. IDIOT Laquan McDonald had his hand in his pocket and clearly pulled something out; and that is probable cause to begin shooting! COMPLY - DON’T DIE !!!


52 posted on 11/24/2015 5:37:34 PM PST by celmak (GO TED CRUZ !!!)
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What is also very shocking is not one officer made an attempt to check out the condition of the guy once he was shot.


55 posted on 11/24/2015 5:39:33 PM PST by SeaHawkFan (all)
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63 posted on 11/24/2015 5:46:22 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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http://www.policeone.com/edged-weapons/articles/102828-Edged-Weapon-Defense-Is-or-was-the-21-foot-rule-valid-Part-1/


71 posted on 11/24/2015 6:00:16 PM PST by Eagles6 ( Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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If this happened on a college campus the president of the school would’ve already been forced to step down. So how come Rahm Satan-is-with-us is being hounded to resign?


79 posted on 11/24/2015 6:13:00 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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I am definitely a supporter of law enforcement, and have many relatives in the field. That being said, this video looks very, very bad. The guy is laying still after being shot, and after several seconds go by a ricochet off of the pavement can be seen next to the subject. That several second pause is damning.


80 posted on 11/24/2015 6:13:06 PM PST by gop4lyf (Gay marriage is neither)
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The interesting part of the video starts at 5:18. At 5:32 the suspect is shot and goes down. At no time do you see the suspect moving toward the cops who shot him. If a knife was the weapon claimed, he wasn't moving toward the cops in a threatening fashion. 2nd unit rolls up at 6:20 into the video. The whole incident lasted a minute.
90 posted on 11/24/2015 6:38:56 PM PST by Myrddin
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It’s sad that a 17yo young man’s life went down that road, high on PCP and walking around with a knife.

Whether or not the officer was justified in the shooting, I don’t know. It’s just an all-around sad video to watch.

There are some 17-year-olds who are a menace to society, and they deserve no sympathy. But I know nothing about this particular 17yo. Did he have a criminal record?


95 posted on 11/24/2015 6:59:33 PM PST by Tired of Taxes
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Laquan you be DRT !


96 posted on 11/24/2015 7:11:00 PM PST by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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We're going to need more fish.


99 posted on 11/24/2015 7:22:19 PM PST by DannyTN
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Play stupid games and win stupid prizes.


103 posted on 11/24/2015 8:48:44 PM PST by Dr.Deth
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