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Fury and fear in Ohio as IT jobs go to India: IT workers are training their replacements
Computerworld ^ | Nov 9, 2015 | Patrick Thibodeau

Posted on 11/09/2015 11:39:23 AM PST by ConservingFreedom

The IT workers at Cengage Learning in the company's Mason, Ohio offices learned of their fates game-show style. First, they were told to gather in a large conference room. There were vague remarks from an IT executive about a "transition." Slides were shown that listed employee names, directing them to one of three rooms where they would be told specifically what was happening to them. Some employees were cold with worry.

The biggest group, those getting pink slips, were told to remain in the large conference room. Workers directed to go through what we'll call Door No. 2, were offered employment with IT offshore outsourcing firm Cognizant. That was the smallest group. And those sent through Door No. 3 remained employed in Cengage's IT department. This happened in mid-October.

[...] The employees were warned that speaking to the news media meant loss of severance. Despite their fears, they want their story told. They want people to know what's happening to IT jobs in the heartland. They don't want the offshoring of their livelihoods to pass in silence.

[...] Offshore outsourcing is having "a fairly strong impact" on IT employment, said Janulaitis. Students coming out of college are facing trouble starting a career "and a lot of that is driven by jobs that are taken by non-U.S. nationals in our economy, and a lot of that is H-1B [visa holders]," he said.

"Why are we talking about more H-1B visas for people when we have people who are unemployed?" said Janulaitis.

The IT offshore industry relies heavily on H-1B workers to deliver services, and large offshore firms, both in the U.S. and in India, are the largest users of this temporary, non-immigrant, work visa. [...]

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: aliens; cengage; corporatewelfare; h1b; ohio
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1 posted on 11/09/2015 11:39:23 AM PST by ConservingFreedom
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To: Parmenio; ColdOne; Yossarian; knittnmom; sf4dubya; Mr. Peabody; wally_bert; dowcaet; ...
H-1B ping. Let me know if you're not on the list and want to be added (or are and want to be removed).
2 posted on 11/09/2015 11:40:12 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (a "guest worker" is a stateless person with no ties to any community, only to his paymaster)
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To: ConservingFreedom

Train them so poorly that they are basically useless. Let the company deal with it then.


3 posted on 11/09/2015 11:42:44 AM PST by Yashcheritsiy (It's time to repeal and replace the GOP)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

TRUMP!!


4 posted on 11/09/2015 11:43:04 AM PST by WENDLE (Trump is not bought . He is no puppet.)
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To: ConservingFreedom

Cruz and Carson ping


5 posted on 11/09/2015 11:43:31 AM PST by Wilderness Conservative
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To: Yashcheritsiy

From past experience with this, it doesn’t matter how you train them. They tend to not know what they are doing. I was supposed to train a bunch of Indian “experts” years ago. They supposedly already knew the language and just needed to know how to access the source code and the system layout. Their first questions were all basic, followed by what books they could learn that from.


6 posted on 11/09/2015 11:45:10 AM PST by Ingtar (Capitulation is the enemy of Liberty, or so the recent past has shown.)
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To: ConservingFreedom

Think it’s bad now? Wait til TPP passes. It will make NAFTA look like a raindrop in the ocean.


7 posted on 11/09/2015 11:45:14 AM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: ConservingFreedom

‘Transition’ = Transformation


8 posted on 11/09/2015 11:45:28 AM PST by NormsRevenge (SEMPER FI!! - Monthly Donors Rock!!)
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To: ConservingFreedom

I went through the same thing last decade. We were ordered to train our Indian replacements of lose our jobs immediately with no possibility of severance.


9 posted on 11/09/2015 11:45:48 AM PST by BradtotheBone (Record number of people on welfare. That's the State of the Union under Obama.)
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To: BradtotheBone; All

same thing with me, IBM


10 posted on 11/09/2015 11:48:11 AM PST by notdownwidems (Washington DC has become the enemy of free people everywhere)
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To: ConservingFreedom

If severance is 2 weeks pay, I’d be mighty tempted to walk.


11 posted on 11/09/2015 11:49:12 AM PST by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: Ingtar

You are correct. They do not know the language. In addition and more importantly, they do not know the culture!

Even when they speak the language they do not know the culture. And this applies to Mexican and other immigrants.

This is destroying us, especially in the srea of health care.


12 posted on 11/09/2015 11:52:04 AM PST by amihow
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To: ConservingFreedom
I thought this article was from 1999

With Agile programming and increasing cloud capabilities I see offshoring as ending its steep increase in bodycount

13 posted on 11/09/2015 11:52:42 AM PST by Cronos (Obama�s dislike of Assad is not based on Assad�s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Mosl)
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To: ConservingFreedom
I just checked Mason, OH's location. It's 22 miles from downtown Cincinnatti, so the jobs and the "aftershock" of laid off workers will also affect Kentucky and Indiana.

Senator Portman and Governor Kasich keep telling us how great they are at bringing jobs to OH, and keeping the ones we have. Oops.

14 posted on 11/09/2015 11:54:32 AM PST by grania
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To: ConservingFreedom

The decision to keep Americans from working in IT was made years ago. I hope these companies lose big and one day realize they should have kept the vast storehouse of knowledge in the USA.


15 posted on 11/09/2015 11:54:52 AM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country)
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To: ConservingFreedom
Lots of jobs offshore

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16 posted on 11/09/2015 11:55:02 AM PST by umgud (v)
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To: I want the USA back
The decision to keep Americans from working in IT was made years ago.

If corporate management had the slightest respect for the IT function, do you think this kind of thing would be happening? Obviously, these companies view it as a commodity rather than a mission-critical business process.

This knowledge should inform young people's choices of majors and professions.

17 posted on 11/09/2015 12:00:44 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: Yashcheritsiy

I deal with useless Asian outsourced employees daily.

They are cheap, and still aren’t worth it.


18 posted on 11/09/2015 12:03:06 PM PST by Uncle Miltie ("The bipartisan project is to destroy conservatism" .. "Cruz is a thoroughbred conservative." - Rush)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

It’s not seen as a commodity, just a cost center, one to be reduced to oblivion and not deemed critical until the CEOs email goes down.


19 posted on 11/09/2015 12:03:15 PM PST by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: Ingtar
Happened to my company too. They tried 'offshoring' unix networking to India. I was currently apprenticing Level 1 and taking calls. Was told I didn't need to. They also 'offshored' a lot of Level 2.

A while later we started hearing from the customers that they were furious. Said the Indian people didn't know what they were doing, were obviously following scripts and when the scripts didn't workout they simply passed it to the Level 2s in the US that were still there.

The company rehired many of the Level 2 folks they had offshored. Some did not come back. Level 1 in India still pisses the customers off.

IMHO: Management had a edict from on high and was not allowed to checkout the new functions which failed because the new culture was used to circular logic.

20 posted on 11/09/2015 12:03:28 PM PST by CptnObvious
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