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1 posted on 11/09/2015 11:39:23 AM PST by ConservingFreedom
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To: Parmenio; ColdOne; Yossarian; knittnmom; sf4dubya; Mr. Peabody; wally_bert; dowcaet; ...
H-1B ping. Let me know if you're not on the list and want to be added (or are and want to be removed).
2 posted on 11/09/2015 11:40:12 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (a "guest worker" is a stateless person with no ties to any community, only to his paymaster)
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Train them so poorly that they are basically useless. Let the company deal with it then.


3 posted on 11/09/2015 11:42:44 AM PST by Yashcheritsiy (It's time to repeal and replace the GOP)
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Cruz and Carson ping


5 posted on 11/09/2015 11:43:31 AM PST by Wilderness Conservative
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Think it’s bad now? Wait til TPP passes. It will make NAFTA look like a raindrop in the ocean.


7 posted on 11/09/2015 11:45:14 AM PST by RIghtwardHo
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‘Transition’ = Transformation


8 posted on 11/09/2015 11:45:28 AM PST by NormsRevenge (SEMPER FI!! - Monthly Donors Rock!!)
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I went through the same thing last decade. We were ordered to train our Indian replacements of lose our jobs immediately with no possibility of severance.


9 posted on 11/09/2015 11:45:48 AM PST by BradtotheBone (Record number of people on welfare. That's the State of the Union under Obama.)
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If severance is 2 weeks pay, I’d be mighty tempted to walk.


11 posted on 11/09/2015 11:49:12 AM PST by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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I just checked Mason, OH's location. It's 22 miles from downtown Cincinnatti, so the jobs and the "aftershock" of laid off workers will also affect Kentucky and Indiana.

Senator Portman and Governor Kasich keep telling us how great they are at bringing jobs to OH, and keeping the ones we have. Oops.

14 posted on 11/09/2015 11:54:32 AM PST by grania
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The decision to keep Americans from working in IT was made years ago. I hope these companies lose big and one day realize they should have kept the vast storehouse of knowledge in the USA.


15 posted on 11/09/2015 11:54:52 AM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country)
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Lots of jobs offshore

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16 posted on 11/09/2015 11:55:02 AM PST by umgud (v)
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Most of the Republican candidates want to increase this.


21 posted on 11/09/2015 12:06:35 PM PST by jospehm20
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This isn’t a new thing for Southwest Ohio, as Lexis-Nexis did it in 2008-2009 for their offshoring to India/Philippines. Same threat to severance, same training requirements, yet no media coverage. On top of that, they did this while saying they wouldn’t leave Dayton like NCR did for Georgia.

That, and there’s the dubious honor of innovating in H1-b fraud - by Wright State University’s use of education status to improperly bypass the visa limits. Nice thing to say that even if one does well in school by all measures, they’ll just use fraud to avoid you anyway.

Southwest Ohio’s job market sure is taking it in the hindquarters. Short of working in a clearance-required role for Wright-Patterson, no good words can be said of the conditions of the job market.


23 posted on 11/09/2015 12:08:49 PM PST by setha (It is past time for the United States to take back what the world took away.)
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I did some work with a chipset company in Maine where the workers had to train 40 chinese who would be taking their jobs

I was amazed how polite they were to the the chinese taking their jobs. In India or China, the workers would be rioting, or at least sabotaging the whole enterprise


27 posted on 11/09/2015 12:20:46 PM PST by PGR88
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If you like this, you’ll LOVE TPP!


28 posted on 11/09/2015 12:24:00 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Voting is self-abuse - without the pleasure.)
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Consequence. What happens when a promise becomes a curse.


30 posted on 11/09/2015 12:31:15 PM PST by YHAOS
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Ohio went with Obama twice, and they have had Boehner all this time. Maybe these workers should appeal to their champions they voted in office.


31 posted on 11/09/2015 12:31:24 PM PST by odawg
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Not a big fan of unions, but situations like this beg for them; and rightly so.

If they all got together and refused to work, they’d keep their jobs or get very sizable severance packages. Peer pressure would get to those few who would be reluctant not to stick with the majority.

They have alot more power than they think.


32 posted on 11/09/2015 12:31:26 PM PST by SeaHawkFan
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IT jobs are taking a hit due to several factors.

US businesses are looking for any way they can to reduce costs. Outsourcing and/or H1-B looks like a viable option. It generally turns out to be much more expensive in my experience. Government mandates are strangling US businesses. Much of what drives outsourcing is a result of an overreaching government.

To be blunt another reason is US universities do an awful job of training programers. With the volume of IT workers needed, I have no doubt companies are having trouble finding US applicants proficient in the skills they need. At the same time, coders who learn to program on their own usually have huge knowledge gaps and bad habits that make employing them very expensive We need a better way to train IT workers.

As more and more of our lives are directly touched by software, I fear this will only get worse before it gets better. What we DON’T need is more government interference. A return to the free marketis the answer .


33 posted on 11/09/2015 12:32:00 PM PST by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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It’s flat out against the law to replace an American worker with an H1B worker.

http://www.dol.gov/whd/regs/compliance/FactSheet62/whdfs62N.htm

How do they get away with this ?


34 posted on 11/09/2015 12:39:51 PM PST by stylin19a (obama = Fredo Smart)
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It’s only a matter of time before some pasty middle manager tasked with delivering this type of news gets a first rate beatdown.


35 posted on 11/09/2015 12:42:36 PM PST by Wolfie
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