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Zogby Poll: Trump Widens Lead After GOP Debate
Forbes ^ | Sep 20 2015 | John Zogby

Posted on 09/20/2015 6:11:05 PM PDT by WilliamIII

Real estate mogul Trump has widened his lead to 20 points in a brand new Zogby Analytics poll taken after the second Republican presidential debate. The new poll of 405 likely Republican primary/caucus voters nationwide with a margin of sampling error of +/- 5.0 percentage points, conducted September 18-19, shows Mr. Trump with 33% (up 2 points from his pre-debate 31%). In second place is neurosurgeon Dr. Ben Carson who actually dropped 3 points to 13%.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: California; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 2016election; 2016polls; bencarson; california; carlyfiorina; cnngopdebate; election2016; gopcandidatespoll; newyork; poll; trump; zogby
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To: AAABEST

Look at that face!


81 posted on 09/20/2015 7:15:30 PM PDT by Crispy
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To: WilliamIII

The trend in all these polls are the same...Trump leading by a substantial margin, Carson slipping, Walker cratering, Carly increasing but nothing near what the media is shilling, and Yeb continuing to suck...


82 posted on 09/20/2015 7:18:52 PM PDT by usafa92 (Conservative in Jersey)
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To: sparklite2

IIRC, it was 2000? I looked online & found this, which says he was good in 1996 & 2000, and lousy in 2004: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/220536/voters-vs-zogby-williumrex


83 posted on 09/20/2015 7:24:40 PM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: South40
Hi. How are you?

We all know polls are meant to promote agenda rather than reflect opinion.

Sometimes, the mass appeal of a candidate (reflected in his gigantic crowds) says more than any poll.

Who is desperate here?


84 posted on 09/20/2015 7:25:03 PM PDT by 867V309 (Trump: Bull in a RINO Shoppe)
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To: Crispy; AAABEST
Do faces really matter?


85 posted on 09/20/2015 7:25:20 PM PDT by South40 (Trump on Kim Davis: I hate to see her being sent to jail but the law is the law)
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To: Rock Eye Jack
It is not the number but the quality of the sample

True, but the whole point of statistics is to get around the problem that you often can't know the quality of individual samples within your sample set. The larger the sample size the less effect outliers will have on the result. A sample size of 405 voters out of 300 million people, given that each voter has fifteen candidates to pick from, is a pretty weak poll.

86 posted on 09/20/2015 7:26:16 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: Maelstorm
she managed to go head to head with Trump

Ehh... not really, she had a lot of help from Tapper. In fact the very first question was to her, a bottom tier candidate averaging just 3.3% of polling. Our course, the question was about Trump, providing an CNN engineered opportunity for confrontation between Carly and Trump. At one point Bush , Walker, and Kasich were all trying to respond to Christie ..but Dana Bash choose Carly. This happened over and over again. Point is CNN helped a lot.

So, she MAY have won the debate but she had the refs on her side. Most everything else you said I agree..but I'll add Trump has not been damaged at all. In fact one may count him the actual winner since Carson is no longer on Trumps heels and the space between 1st and 2nd has widened.

87 posted on 09/20/2015 7:27:06 PM PDT by topfile
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To: 867V309
I'm not at all desperate, I'm not the one pushing the lifelong liberal in a conservative forum. That would be you.

And my statement was accurate; that image had absolutely nothing to do with this "poll".

88 posted on 09/20/2015 7:27:28 PM PDT by South40 (Trump on Kim Davis: I hate to see her being sent to jail but the law is the law)
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To: AAABEST

I’m going to tell you something and you will never be able to not notice this about Carly Fiorina ever again.

She always tilts her head 10% to one side. It’s a gimmick.

Sorry in advance.


89 posted on 09/20/2015 7:28:29 PM PDT by Eddie01
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To: SeeSharp

For your enlightenment, then:

Firstly, “8 per state” is ridiculous from the get-go because it’s not a state-by-state poll. It’s a national poll. 405 from a population is a quite substantial sample (sampling error +/- 5% in this case) for any size population. It’s also pretty much standard for primary polling. For example, the sample size for the latest CNN poll was 444. For the latest CBS/NYT, it was 376. For Monmouth, it was 366. In other words, this is just a regular ol’ poll. How many people do you think pollsters actually poll, anyway? What is your MOE standard to make a poll “a poll”, and do you realize how many people you’d have to call just for that little bit of improvement in confidence?


90 posted on 09/20/2015 7:29:29 PM PDT by I Hired Craig Livingstone (DT16. Deal with it.)
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To: South40

nicckarowaybot is tht you?


91 posted on 09/20/2015 7:29:30 PM PDT by 867V309 (Trump: Bull in a RINO Shoppe)
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To: SeeSharp

How do you get color in your posts?


92 posted on 09/20/2015 7:30:21 PM PDT by BlackFemaleArmyColonel (JESUS CHRIST IS MY LORD AND SAVIOUR!)
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To: SaxxonWoods

As pointed out above, the polls are all in general agreement.

Trump leads big.

Career politicians are going nowhere so far.


93 posted on 09/20/2015 7:31:38 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Life is good.)
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To: volunbeer
I will admit it - he has shocked me with how well he is doing so far.

what's shocking is, I think I'm in agreement with every one of his positions

94 posted on 09/20/2015 7:33:49 PM PDT by 11th_VA ("We're not gonna take it ANYMORRRRRE !!!")
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To: Helicondelta

Agree. I don’t trust CNN polls. I never did from day 1.


95 posted on 09/20/2015 7:34:07 PM PDT by BlackFemaleArmyColonel (JESUS CHRIST IS MY LORD AND SAVIOUR!)
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To: I Hired Craig Livingstone

The 8 per state was clearly rhetorical, and you know that.

As for the sample size of 405 being substantial, it depends on how many choices are being offered. With 15 names on the ballot 405 is nowhere near large enough.


96 posted on 09/20/2015 7:35:27 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: South40
I'm not the one pushing the lifelong liberal in a conservative forum. That would be you.

My bad. I apologize to everyone on FR. It is bad form to respond to trolls.

Once again, my apologies.


97 posted on 09/20/2015 7:37:04 PM PDT by 867V309 (Trump: Bull in a RINO Shoppe)
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To: WilliamIII

Bookmark


98 posted on 09/20/2015 7:37:24 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Helicondelta
Zogby has a better track record than Gallup and Rasmussen

Ummmm....NO.

This poll is consistant with the NBC poll that was also released today.

Again I am no fan of Fiorina, but almost every other post debate poll has Fiorina at much higher than 7%.

99 posted on 09/20/2015 7:37:29 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: Helicondelta

Everybody “nailed” the last election. What’s great about that?


100 posted on 09/20/2015 7:40:05 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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