Posted on 09/15/2015 9:42:27 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Only once since the beginning of August had any poll showed Trump leading by less than double digits, and that poll had him up seven. Today’s four-point lead over Carson is the slimmest advantage he’s had since Trumpmania started to break big six weeks ago. In fact, with a six-point margin of error in the new NYT/CBS survey, it’s possible that Carson has already passed Trump for the lead nationally. How’s that for a pre-debate aperitif?
Jeb Bush and Scott Walker, whom many thought would be the last two men standing for the nomination, are at eight percent. Combined.
Mike Huckabee has three times the support that Walker does. For shame, conservative America.
Toss in Carly Fiorina’s four percent and you’ve got 54 percent combined for the three amateur/outsider candidates versus 37 percent for the field’s many professional pols, with another nine percent who don’t know yet. Proof that we’re destined for an outside-the-box nominee this year? Don’t be so sure: Per the Times, fully 63 percent of those polled say they haven’t made up their mind yet about whom to support. Even within the phenomenon of Trumpmania, 46 percent of Trump backers say it’s possible they could eventually switch to another candidate, meaning that only 14 percent or so of Republicans polled here are firmly committed to the Donald. Last week’s Quinnipiac poll showed Carson easily winning the largest share of Trump’s voters as their second choice, so if he has a good debate tomorrow and Trump gets hit hard, you may see him and Trump flip as 1-2 in next week’s surveys.
And what if Trump hangs on all the way into next summer and wins the nomination? Bill Kristol, doubtless speaking for many in the commentariat, tells CNN Money that he’s prepared to go third-party:
“I doubt I’d support Donald. I doubt I’d support the Democrat,” Kristol told CNNMoney in an email. “I think I’d support getting someone good on the ballot as a third party candidate.”…
So who would Kristol like to see on the ballot?
Former Vice President Dick Cheney and freshman Senator Tom Cotton, Kristol said, “would be an excellent independent ticket!”
I guess that party loyalty pledge that Trump signed only runs one way. Kristol raises an intriguing possibility, though. Given the angst about Trump among conservative ideologues, is it possible that a prominent conservative would jump in and run as an independent if Trump is the GOP’s nominee? It’s hard to see how, say, a Jim DeMint could be convinced to throw the election to Hillary Clinton, especially with Trump pounding the table about stronger borders as his signature issue, but maybe Trump will move so far towards the center that conservatives will feel no choice but to offer an alternative.
If we’re going to elect a fan of big government, might as well stick with the Democrat and keep the GOP’s brand free from the association, right? Besides, Rick Perry’s critique of “Trumpism” may resonate with enough righties that they conclude it’s the lesser of two evils to keep the presidency in the hands of a mainstream Democrat than as aspiring strongman who’d do God knows what with the office. Again, though, who are you going to convince to run? Who’s a big enough name to pull enough votes from Trump to guarantee his defeat and has enough dough in the bank to pay for the sort of massive operation that’s required? I got nothing.
Tomorrow night at the Reagan Library should be very interesting...
And what if Trump hangs on all the way into next summer and wins the nomination? Bill Kristol, doubtless speaking for many in the commentariat, tells CNN Money that he’s prepared to go third-party:
“I doubt I’d support Donald. I doubt I’d support the Democrat,” Kristol told CNNMoney in an email. “I think I’d support getting someone good on the ballot as a third party candidate.”…
THIS ^^^ tells us exactly what kind of lying, conniving jerks Kristol and the entire Weekly Standard/National Review kabal has become.
NO THANKS!!!!
I try to avoid poll bias where we only like the polls that we want. However, something about the recent Carson polls do not ring true when one compares the recent news and political events to the change in Carson’s support. I don’t understand what is driving his recent increase.
” if Trump hangs on all the way into next summer and wins the nomination? Bill Kristol, doubtless speaking for many in the commentariat, tells CNN Money that he’s prepared to go third-party:
“I doubt I’d support Donald. I doubt I’d support the Democrat,” Kristol told CNNMoney in an email. “I think I’d support getting someone good on the ballot as a third party candidate.”…
Kristwhore will only appeal with those living in the beltway and NYC. Those scum suckers will never vote for someone who loves America.
Kristwhore will drive more voters to Trump/Cruz.
Night of The Long Knives, no doubt.
Same thing that’s running the unemployment numbers, GDP, etc.
Didnt cheney say deficits don’t matter? Cheney is right in there with any other big govt liberal.....er.uh.... Well ...
“I doubt I’d support Donald. I doubt I’d support the Democrat,” Kristol told CNNMoney in an email. “I think I’d support getting someone good on the ballot as a third party candidate.”…
So who would Kristol like to see on the ballot?
Former Vice President Dick Cheney and freshman Senator Tom Cotton, Kristol said, “would be an excellent independent ticket!”
This guy is so lost in space.
This is what passes for Conservative on the talking head shows. The GOPe is evidently happy with that, because they've remained silent for decades as Krystol served to destroy actual Conservatism every chance he got.
"However, something about the recent Carson polls do not ring true when one compares the recent news and political events to the change in Carson’s support. I don’t understand what is driving his recent increase."
Two knocks on Carson:
1. Supports a form of gun control in cities.
2. Believes in mandatory vaccinations.
I think Trump managed to harness the “anyone but Jeb Bush” wing of the Republican party (that and the fact that Trump is loud, obnoxious and royally pisses off the lamestream media, which is very entertaining). Now people are starting to look around and realize that Trump is not the only candidate besides Bush.
I just hope that the “anyone but Bush” wing (of which I am a member) does not stay divided and end up giving Bush the nomination (which is what the Bushies are counting on).
First, there’s a typo there, Carson’s support in August was 16%, not 6% (look at the column rankings).
Second, we’re to believe that Trump went up only 3% in that time, but Carson jumped from 16 to 23??
And all during this time, Trump is speaking to sold-out arenas while Carson is doing squat?
NY Times and CBS are outright lying to us. This is sheer media manipulation to stop Trump. Big Media is desperate and it shows.
After last night in Dallas, I don’t think Carson has that kind of clout....
The GOPee and everyone else is trying to knock Trump out, and he keeps getting higher in their so called polls...
You can’t draw crowds like this if you don’t have something...
““I doubt I’d support Donald. I doubt I’d support the Democrat,” Kristol told CNNMoney in an email. “I think I’d support getting someone good on the ballot as a third party candidate.”…”
Here’s a better idea, since Kristolcrap doesn’t believe in democracy, he’d probably find a better home outside the USA. So I’m for taking up a collection to buy the little schmeckel a one-way ticket to the country of his choice. He could take Alec Baldwin with him.
Why does Dr. Carson close his eyes when he speaks?
Carson is a smooth talking phony.
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