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Email timeline suggests second server may exist (Hillary may be in a lot more trouble alert)
Washington Examiner ^ | August 22, 2015 | Sarah Westwood

Posted on 08/22/2015 4:51:01 PM PDT by Zakeet

Conflicting accounts of when data was removed from Hillary Clinton's private server indicate copies of emails known to contain classified information may reside on a device other than the one presently in FBI custody.

She may have printed 55,000 pages of emails for submission to the State Department from a different device than the one presently in FBI custody.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


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To: DrDude

Here’s the path to hillarys downfall:

The server has the data, classified on whatever topics (Benghazi, Clinton Foundation etc...)
The Feds want the data
She doesn’t want the Feds to have the data but
She also doesn’t want to lose the data
So she has the data moved to a different storage media
She has the original machine, hard drive wiped and hands it over believing she’s gotten the data away cleanly,

If she just wanted to get rid of of the server and data, she could have easily done so.

She wants to keep the data for whatever reason and she thinks she can do it while getting away with turning over the blank server. That’s her downfall. As long as the data exists it’s transfer between media can be tracked. She will eventually have a choice to make: get rid of the data or get caught.

I bet her hubris and her “better than the peons” attitude won’t let her get rid of it. She doesn’t seem the Self-realized type who believes it can happen to her. She is More like the type keep smoking believing that cancer only happens to other people.


61 posted on 08/22/2015 7:49:09 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Trump campaign ad: Trump, in his Apprentice chair, saying "America, you're hired")
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To: BushCountry
They (the govt) can collect MAC addresses or they can request ISPs to do it. But they cannot see MAC addresses outside the subnet so the information only has use for correlating the MACs with other collected info on that subnet. Did some tcpdump just now although I haven't used it for years. Used -e which should grab all MAC address. I see:
23:00:05.197220 ARP, Ethernet (len 6), IPv4 (len 4), Request who-has 192.168.0.19 tell 192.168.0.1, length 46
23:00:05.197236 ARP, Ethernet (len 6), IPv4 (len 4), Reply 192.168.0.19 is-at 34:36:3b:c8:67:88, length 28
That's it, a grand total of one mac address in an ARP reply. I tested a capture while I sent myself an email from my own email server. Granted the email came via IMAP from Apple's server, but Apple's server is not going to get the MAC of my server either. They are not sent beyond the router. Collecting them internally from every subnet on earth has the benefit of tying it to a specific network card as you mentioned. But that is quite a bit of data collection for not a lot of benefit. Collecting them from Hillary Clinton's subnet is a bit more interesting but seems unlikely.
62 posted on 08/22/2015 8:10:28 PM PDT by palmer (Net "neutrality" = Obama turning the internet into FlixNet)
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To: ClearCase_guy

That’s “Wikileaks” and “Ashley Madison,” I believe.


63 posted on 08/22/2015 8:45:54 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: Zakeet

I think the problem may be that the emails Hillary printed can’t be found on the hard drives of this server, not that this isn’t the right server.

I fully expect she had techies swap out the hard drives for fresh ones. As she was not supposed to scrub anything, they are stating its the wrong server, but she scrubbed and gave the real one.


64 posted on 08/22/2015 8:51:33 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: ImNotLying
I’m sure ole Bill wasn’t just playing golf with Odumbo for the fun of it. He was negotiating the price of a couple of pardons in the near future.

I'm no lawyer, but I don't think it's possible to grant a conditional legal equivalent of "prior restraint."

If Cankles and the First Rapist are not indicted or impeached and found guilty before Omugabe's term of office is over, no pardon can be granted.

I really hope that there are some GOPE with more than a few brain cells in D.C.

65 posted on 08/22/2015 8:55:47 PM PDT by publius911 (If you like Obamacare, You'll LOVE ObamaWeb.)
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To: blueunicorn6
Hillary is a lawyer.
She would never give up evidence unless she had a backup to protect herself with.
She’s always thinking, “Maybe I can save myself with a technicality.”

A disbarred lawyer.
Lost her license to practice.
Plus the world's smartest barred ex-lawyer actually thought that giving her lawyer a memory stick would keep the information out of reach of authorities due to client-lawyer "confidentiality."

How stupid is that?

66 posted on 08/22/2015 9:06:17 PM PDT by publius911 (If you like Obamacare, You'll LOVE ObamaWeb.)
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To: publius911
If Cankles and the First Rapist are not indicted or impeached and found guilty before Omugabe's term of office is over, no pardon can be granted.

Did not President Gerald Ford pardon Richard Nixon, though no charges had been brouht against him?

67 posted on 08/22/2015 9:16:52 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Zakeet

I’m guessing the original hard drive was taken out and ‘acceptable’ emails were put on the new hard drive and loaded into the server... Then the new hard drive was erased, reloaded, erased etc. Then wiped clean. In short, if there 2 bits of information it’ll be consistent with the lie.

Meanwhile the original hard drive was put in a wood chipper.


68 posted on 08/22/2015 9:21:59 PM PDT by GOPJ ("Hillary done in by Anchor Emails" - freeper AU72)
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To: Zakeet

I am looking forward to Hillary’s “I’m melting!” speech.


69 posted on 08/22/2015 9:22:07 PM PDT by TChad
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To: publius911

When did Hillary lose her license? I know Michelle O. lost hers.


70 posted on 08/22/2015 9:23:26 PM PDT by JohnnyP
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To: Zakeet

Point one: Why is there no questioning why she supposedly used ONE server for both gov’t and personal business? It isn’t done.

Point two. Where are those thousands of reporters who went to Alaska to pour over Palins emails?


71 posted on 08/22/2015 9:48:02 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christians are as Christians do. By their fruits...)
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To: Melinator

From the thumb drive backups of her emails in her lawyers possession ? Those were recently given to the FBI.


72 posted on 08/22/2015 11:46:47 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The use of the name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: maggief
#27
73 posted on 08/23/2015 12:03:30 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: ClearCase_guy

You mean our gub mint lies?
Get a rope.


74 posted on 08/23/2015 2:55:52 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ( Obammy is a lie, a mooselimb and pond scum.)
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To: Zakeet

AHA, the NSA or the CIA put on a parasite server in tandem with her ISP provider?

Make the goodies public! ( sarc.)


75 posted on 08/23/2015 4:14:18 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: GOPJ
Good analyses.......but I'm thinking the Clintons hung on to the servers b/c they contain important financial details of the Clintons holdings....such as where they stashed the $6 billion missing from the State Dept.

CLINTON CASH AUTHOR PETER SCHWEIZER OBSERVES:
Deleted Hillary Emails Probably Relate to shady ‘Clinton Cash’ Transactions......and billions raked in by the Clinton Foundation.

Must be zillions wire-transferred offshore into LLC accounts.....and other financial instruments for the greedy Clintons controlling the levers of govt income and outgo.

When he went to jail, investigators found Ponzi King Bernie Madoff had stashed billions offshore---into a labyrinth of financial entities. Some $8.9 billion was funneled to Madoff through a dozen so-called feeder funds based in Europe, the Caribbean and Central America......a labyrinth of hedge funds, management companies and service providers that, to unsuspecting outsiders, seemed to compose a formidable system of checks and balances.

But the purpose of Madoff's complex architecture was just the opposite: the feeder funds provided different modes for directing money to Madoff in order to avoid scrutiny.

Bill was incessantly globe-trotting....."doing-good w/ Foundation money"......the two crooks have money stashed all over the world.

76 posted on 08/23/2015 5:36:14 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Zakeet

She is ending her vacation early. Never a good sign for a politician.


77 posted on 08/23/2015 6:24:55 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: COBOL2Java

It’s in a porta-potty in Des Moines,


78 posted on 08/23/2015 6:59:27 AM PDT by Scutter
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To: blueunicorn6
She is not the kind of person to go out and buy her own stuff.

Did she use taxpayer money to purchase and install that server?

That right there is probably a felony. But, La Dee Da as usual.

79 posted on 08/23/2015 7:47:03 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: Jumper

They already have the printed emails. It’s the emails she deleted that they want. Those were not printed that we know of.


80 posted on 08/23/2015 8:15:39 AM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (The last suit you wear has no pockets!)
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