Posted on 08/10/2015 7:51:05 AM PDT by Biggirl
Businessman Donald Trump on Monday tried to move beyond his controversial remark that Fox News host Megyn Kelly had "blood coming out of her ... wherever," saying he was not the one who should apologize. "The fact is she asked me a very inappropriate question. She should really be apologizing to me," the Republican presidential candidate said Monday on MSNBC's "Morning Joe."
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I have seen people say that Trump is going to get the black vote and then they show this mere anecdotal pic.
Two black women, and yet Trump is somehow going to get the black vote?
Keep dreaming.
Didn’t the Trumpster say that single payer works great in Scotland and elsewhere?
Maybe we should contact their sponsors and tell them we will no longer be watching their commercials or buying their products.
I honestly think he’ll pivot at a time and place of his choosing. It’s like a general conducting a series of feints and diversions, and then he turns the harassment into a full scale attack. (Sun Tzu)
I’ve made up my mind that Trump did not get 10 billion bucks being a dummy, and that underneath there is an extremely shrewd operator who is smart as can be.
The real question is predicting when the actual offensive would take place. It does strike me that it has to be sufficiently prior to the actual primary voting that it sinks in. My bet is November, right before the holiday season so that his enemies response is hampered.
I’m also betting it will involve: illegals, energy, incomes. Illegals isn’t too wild a guess. The other two are.
Ok, so, what is his free market plan on health insurance...other than single payer (BTW, has he said he no longer thinks it is good?). I mean, I know he had an “awesome” plan, but what is it?
Ok, so he is Conservative because he hates paying taxes? LOL. so, now, just Conservatives hate paying taxes? Funny...I know Liberals who do too. BTW, didn’t he do his best to pay no taxes?
He hates illegal immigration while hiring them to work for his companies...unless, you mean, he hates the bad ones and not the really good “hard working ones”, right?
You keep saying a good Conservative policy for taxes and health care. I have already asked you for his health care policy, now taxes...where does he stand on banning the death tax? Marriage penalty? Capital gains? does he want to abolish the IRS?
Loves America...wow, glad he is the ONLY candidate running who loves America.
Fights like hell...yep, nobody else does this (never mind that Cruz did it on the Senate Floor).
So, again, WHAT exactly are his CONSERVATIVE policies?
Yep, Canada...
And, like good Trumpers, his supporters think it is a GREAT idea..because life expectancy in those countries is about like ours.
Trump is getting lots of flak so he’s flying ever closer to the target area and the enemy fighters are coming up to intercept him. Very soon he will have to start dropping some bombs. :)
I heard him say that his free market plan for healthcare is no state limitation on purchase.
His tax plan is flat tax.
No one admits to hiring illegals. My guess is that like all large corporations, and especially service industry like hotels, there are illegals working.
BUT, he has always said to build the wall first.
Saying that 2 out of 17 fight — and he’s one of them — is not detrimental at all to Trump. (If Sessions would run, I’d vote for him.)
The upcoming debates might expose Trump to be a shallow opportunist who has diagnosed the problem but who has failed to rigorously think through his soundbite solutions. Most likely, the upcoming debates will not derail Trump's circus, it is still too early in the media cycle bubble, but it will begin the process.
I have also many times conjectured (rather than predicted) that Trump's numbers might continue to ascend but at a decelerating rate signaling that they were approaching a topping. These numbers indicate that that might well be the case.
CYA: one poll ain't enough to make clear judgments. We want to see a trend to do that. So far it looks like Trump is at best horizontal and perhaps declining and Cruz is ascending. Yes, I do indeed like those trends as one poster has suggested-but one dare not call them that yet.
I would argue that if the trends are real it signals that the folks are beginning to understand that Trump is not the only alternative to Jeb Bush and the Republican establishment. They are beginning to see Ted Cruz as that viable alternative without all of the baggage of Donald Trump. If so, that is the beginning of the end for Trump.
The decline of Jeb Bush, if that is a trend which continues and one might venture that there is a lot of evidence found in earlier polls to declare that a trend, it means that the need for Donald Trump as the only way to stop Jeb Bush and the Republican establishment is abating and will be seen to be abating. If Jeb Bush is no threat, conservatives need not take a risk with Donald Trump; Ted Cruz will do very nicely.
I say one more time, it's too early to tell but the first signs are encouraging.
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Since publishing the above reply early this morning a second poll has been released. This is a small poll (278 respondents) with a high margin of error but it is something. It says two things at least:
1. Trump remains constant-to my mind that means we have confirmation that the adrenaline shock no longer moves the system. Trump's rise appears to have ceased and topped. The implications of that for Trump's campaign are dire because of the factors set forth in the vanity sourced at the top of this reply.
2. Jeb Bush is descending. To my mind this means that Bush is becoming less of a factor and less of a reason for people to be worried about stopping him. Conservatives want to stop Bush because he is the personification of the Republican establishment. Many of us are desperate to stop the Republican establishment and some of us would support Trump to do so. The need to use Trump to stop Bush diminishes as Bush diminishes.
3. Cruz has continued to improve, although this new poll does not tell is by how much but at least it tends to confirm the earlier poll which shows Cruz up by eight and in second place at 13%.
This is significant because in reply after reply we are assured by Trump supporters that every time he manages another grotesquerie, his poll numbers only go up and therefore every outrage is not only justified but applauded. That game appears to be coming to an end at last.
We await more poll results to confirm a trend but the indications are growing stronger.
Xins,
First of all, you have no clue. He supports Single Payer and has an “awesome” health care plan. But, is there anything else he wants for health care or just no state limitations? Single Payer?
His plan is not a flat tax. This was posted on FR earlier...he has a 4 tiered plan on income. No deductions. But no mention of the other things I asked about...and no abolishing the IRS to this point.
He doesn’t have to admit he hired illegals...it is known he has and he never denied it. The large corporation thing is a sham and you know it.
Yes, he said he will build a wall...and then what? He has gotten a bit, well, moderate on the rest.
I agree. There are some very good lists of Fox News sponsors on the net. They’re all dated and mostly posted by Liberals but, what the hey! The term “useful idiots” comes to mind.
Fine, don’t vote for him. Bet he doesn’t care if you hate him or not.
I heard him. Are you saying I didn’t hear him?
A good friend is just retired CFO of one of American’s major high rise concrete firms. They all have illegals. All of service industry has illegals.
If there’s 30 million in the country, they’ve got to be somewhere.
Ok, you heard him...
And yet, his policy was posted on FR. So, which one is right?
What I heard is right.
When did he say it? I was going to pull up the FR post from earlier. I believe he supports a tiered system.
I heard it on the news since that debate. Heard it from his own mouth.
Then, care to refute the FR post with a breakdown of his plan?
Which post?
I believe the Trump support to be mostly people with a hatred for the establishment and doubt that will translate to votes for The Donald, but I could be very wrong.
At this point there is absolutely nothing to be gained by the Dump the Trump brigade here on FR. Killing off Trump does nothing to promote Cruz, because likely gainers would be Carly or Carson if/when Trump explodes.
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