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Public-Sector Jobs Vanish, Hitting Blacks Hard [1.8 million fewer jobs in public sector]
New York Times ^ | May 24, 2015 | PATRICIA COHEN

Posted on 05/25/2015 3:20:11 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

".....Roughly one in five black adults works for the government, teaching school, delivering mail, driving buses, processing criminal justice and managing large staffs. They are about 30 percent more likely to have a public sector job than non-Hispanic whites, and twice as likely as Hispanics.

The Labor Department counts half a million fewer public sector jobs than before the start of the recession in 2007...understates just how much the government’s work force has shrunk.... because it fails to account for the normal growth in the country’s population: Factor that in, she said, and there are 1.8 million fewer jobs in the public sector for people to fill.

The decline reverses a historical pattern, researchers say, with public sector employees typically holding onto their jobs even during most economic downturns.

Because blacks hold a disproportionate share of the jobs, relative to their share of the population, the cutbacks naturally hit them harder.

But black workers overall, women in particular, also lost their jobs at a higher rate than whites..“double disadvantage for black public sector workers...They are concentrated in a shrinking sector of the economy, and they are substantially more likely than other public sector workers to be without work.”.....

...Even now, with the economy regaining strength, public sector employment has still not bounced back. An incomplete recovery is part of the reason, but a combination of strong anti-government and anti-tax sentiment in some places has kept down public payrolls. At the same time, attempts to curb collective bargaining, like those led by Wisconsin’s governor, Scott Walker, a likely Republican presidential candidate, have weakened public unions.............

....some researchers and union officials also see a racial undercurrent in the campaigns.

“With public employment in general being under attack, it’s really an attack on these communities,” said Mr. Bodner of the Philadelphia transit workers union, referring to black people......"

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: black; economy; jobs; publicemployees
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To: pepsionice

“All of this ought to make you ask why inner-city neighborhoods survive.”

The generous use of our tax dollars to keep that ‘sector’ contained and voting for Democrats.

Plain and simple.


41 posted on 05/25/2015 4:41:12 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Hitting blacks hard. It’s hitting whites hard, too. Why is it always just the blacks who get attention. Many whites are suffering just as much if not more in Obama’s
economy. Hours cut, jobs lost, foreigners hired rather than citizens.


42 posted on 05/25/2015 4:46:53 AM PDT by stilloftyhenight (http://www.tedcruz.org)
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To: stilloftyhenight

“Why is it always just the blacks who get attention.”

Because nothing white, other than as it involves hurting blacks, is news.


43 posted on 05/25/2015 4:55:31 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: PeteB570

Wonder if they are including the down sized Military in those numbers?
My thot too


44 posted on 05/25/2015 5:03:27 AM PDT by aumrl (let's keep it real Conservatives)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

yeah, government is shrinking....I believe that NY Times.....I mean, if it’s in the NY Tines, it must be true, right?

/s


45 posted on 05/25/2015 5:10:49 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The Left has a huge (unacknowledged) problem: as more and more govt clerical jobs are automated or privatized, there is less need for public sector employees. The state of Illinois will actually lead on this issue (eventually) because it has to— their state supreme court last week refused to permit restructuring their public sector pension obligations. That’s a $110B nut, and now all they can do is raise taxes and cut services (their debt is already junk status).

We’ll see how excited the Democrats are about big government when it’s services are automated, run by systems administrators, and quantified results of various programs are obtained with the click of a mouse. Oh, and computers don’t take vacations, need health insurance, or... vote.

Republicans should be embracing the shift. But they’re stuck in some kind early 1960s fog. They can state their principles quite nicely, but they lack the ability to formulate policy alternatives.


46 posted on 05/25/2015 5:12:55 AM PDT by ameribbean expat
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

That’s ok, they’ll make almost as much with all the $15 minimum wage jobs in Los Angeles and Seattle.


47 posted on 05/25/2015 5:13:46 AM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my 'about' page))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Because blacks hold a disproportionate share of the jobs, relative to their share of the population, the cutbacks naturally hit them harder. But black workers overall, women in particular, also lost their jobs at a higher rate than whites

Oh look. The old trope about the NYT ("Women, children, minorities hardest hit") isn't a myth. They print this line with regularity.

48 posted on 05/25/2015 5:22:11 AM PDT by Lazamataz (America has less than a year left.)
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To: fella
So now it's official, wanting smaller more efficient gov is racist

It's also a very nice diversion. Blacks who lost public sector jobs can't get private sector jobs? That's because they're taken by hispanics and other invaders. Wouldn't it be better to just send home the invaders?

What's racist is assuming that blacks can only do private sector jobs. That assertion comes with an assumption that blacks are not as capable or ambitious as it takes to survive in the private sector.

49 posted on 05/25/2015 5:22:14 AM PDT by grania
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Good point. The New York Times isn’t even in the same hemisphere as the truth.


50 posted on 05/25/2015 5:23:22 AM PDT by Lazamataz (America has less than a year left.)
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To: Gen.Blather
Think of how hard governments will fight against self-driving cars.

When cars are programmed to punctiliously observe all traffic laws, a main source of revenue for most local police forces will evaporate.

This will also be a blow to two of the largest pro-socialist businesses in the US: Geico (owned by Warren Buffett) and Progressive.

51 posted on 05/25/2015 5:24:11 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
....some researchers and union officials also see a racial undercurrent in the campaigns. “With public employment in general being under attack, it’s really an attack on these communities,” said Mr. Bodner of the Philadelphia transit workers union, referring to black people......"

So, now, any attempt to slow down, stop, or reverse the size of government is racist?

Then I am a proud racist.

52 posted on 05/25/2015 5:24:53 AM PDT by Lazamataz (America has less than a year left.)
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To: wideawake
Think of how hard governments will fight against self-driving cars. When cars are programmed to punctiliously observe all traffic laws, a main source of revenue for most local police forces will evaporate. This will also be a blow to two of the largest pro-socialist businesses in the US: Geico (owned by Warren Buffett) and Progressive.

It is insanity to believe government and the left will permit the revenue to stop.

Expect a quota of traffic violations to be built in to the software, in order to automatically cite and collect on the 'lawbreaking' owners. To appease Buffett and Geico/Progressive, autodriving cars will be randomly selected to cause accidents, some fatal.

53 posted on 05/25/2015 5:28:26 AM PDT by Lazamataz (America has less than a year left.)
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To: Arthur McGowan

But government revenues are up, not down.


Guessing a lot of it goes to pay interest on Govt bonds.


54 posted on 05/25/2015 5:28:58 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: wideawake

“Think of how hard governments will fight against self-driving cars.”

I hadn’t thought of that. But both my elderly parents gave up their driver’s licenses. Without family they’d also have to give up their home and move years early to a more expensive location. I was thinking what would happen to us kids who will not have any close family in our declining years. Very scary. Perhaps self driving cars are the answer.


55 posted on 05/25/2015 5:29:45 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: C. Edmund Wright; Lazamataz
The article's argument is slimier than just an outright lie that government is shrinking: it is arguing that the number of government employees has stopped growing as rapidly as it used to.

It argues that if government jobs grew as fast as the population, there would be 1.8mm more new government jobs.

The article wants us to forget that there have been some slight technological advances since 1992.

56 posted on 05/25/2015 5:32:11 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: Verginius Rufus

Notice how slimy the rhetoric is. They start with statistics. But by the time they get to racism they have replaced actual facts with “many say” or “some think” (both of these require two people to agree, the writer and one other), then they source it with a quote from a single guy who runs the union and gets paid on dues. This appears to be well researched. But its just a union enrollment piece.


57 posted on 05/25/2015 5:33:13 AM PDT by poinq
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To: wideawake
The New York Times has a long and storied tradition of lying outright to further the cause of communism and socialism, with one of the most egregious examples -- whitewashing Stalin -- occurring 70+ years ago.

If they have (much more than a) 70+ year tradition of lying for communism, what makes anyone think they'll stop?

58 posted on 05/25/2015 5:35:42 AM PDT by Lazamataz (America has less than a year left.)
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To: Arthur McGowan
You are correct I believe.

Also games of musical chairs have been played with government jobs with government jobs being taken from whites and given to minorities.

59 posted on 05/25/2015 5:36:14 AM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: poinq
Notice how slimy the rhetoric is. They start with statistics. But by the time they get to racism they have replaced actual facts with “many say” or “some think” (both of these require two people to agree, the writer and one other), then they source it with a quote from a single guy who runs the union and gets paid on dues.

This is the basic formula for a New York Times pro-communism piece.

This appears to be well researched.

Nossir. The minute I saw 'New York Times' I knew it was blatant propaganda.

60 posted on 05/25/2015 5:37:21 AM PDT by Lazamataz (America has less than a year left.)
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