Posted on 05/02/2015 10:14:52 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Is Prosecutor Mosby correct that Grays arrest was unlawful because knife was legal?
A new talking point claiming that Freddie Grays original arrest was unlawful has arisen, propelled by the claim yesterday by Prosecutor Mosby that the knife seized from Gray by police was legal to possess in Maryland.
As reported by the New York Times:
Ms. Mosby faulted the police conduct at every turn. The officers who arrested him failed to establish probable cause for Mr. Grays arrest, as no crime had been committed, she said, describing the arrest as illegal. Officers accused him of possession of a switchblade, but Ms. Mosby said, The knife was not a switchblade and is lawful under Maryland law.
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These statements are remarkably insensible coming from someone who has attained the position of state prosecutor.
Mosby Issue #1: Spring-Assisted Knives Almost Certainly ARE Illegal Under MD Law
First, it raises a question of whether Mosby is simply facially incorrect in claiming that Grays knife is legal. It has been described in news reports as spring assisted. If that description is explicitly false and there was no spring assist mechanism, then it is likely that Grays knife was not unlawful.
If, however, it was spring assisted than it certainly seems it would be unlawful under Maryland law.
The Criminal Code of Maryland, §4-105, defines a switchblade knife as:
(1) a knife or penknife having a blade that opens automatically by hand pressure applied to a button, spring, or other device in the handle of the knife.
The way a spring-assisted knife mechanism works is that a spring in the handle of the knife takes over the opening of the blade after the blade has been opened a small amount by pressure applied to the blade by the users fingers. Thus, the statutory definition would certainly seem to apply to spring-assisted knives.
Clearly, if a spring-assisted knife falls within the statutory prohibition, and it has been widely reported Grays knife was spring-assisted, possession of this unlawful knife would provide probable cause for Grays arrest.
It is notable that Mosby has yet to address this issue of the precise mechanism of Grays knife. This is an odd oversight, given that this issue would likely be determinative of her claim that the knife was not unlawful. For those unclear on the mechanistic differences an assisted-opening knife and a switchblade, the video below may be informative (the first knife is the assisted-opening, the second the switchblade):
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Mosby Issue #2: Jurisdictional Sloppiness
Second, Mosbys statement reflects remarkable jurisdictional sloppiness, especially coming from a state prosecutor who works primarily in a subsidiary jurisdiction of that state. As noted above, Mosby is quoted as explicitly stating that:
The knife was not a switchblade and is lawful under Maryland law. (emphasis added)
The description of the charge brought against Gray explicitly provides that he
"did unlawfully carry, possess and sell a knife commonly known as a switch blade knife, with an automatic spring or other device for opening and/or closing the blade within the limits of Baltimore City. (emphasis added)
It is notable that it is not at all uncommon, particularly in blue cities, for those cities to have substantially more restrictive weapons laws than do surrounding urban areas. Anyone who has ever driven through the state of Maryland will have seen that there is a dramatic difference in social culture between inner-city Baltimore and the bucolic Maryland countryside.
Indeed, the City of Baltimore has adopted as an ordinance of its City Code §59-22, which states in relevant part:
Switch-blade knives. (a) Possession or sale, etc., prohibited. It shall be unlawful for any person to sell, carry, or possess any knife with an automatic spring. (emphasis added)
Thus (and again assuming Grays knife was spring-assisted, as widely reported), even if Mosby is correct (unlikely) that the knife was legal under Maryland state law, it would still arguably have been illegal under Baltimore code §59-22.
Mosby Issue #3: Weapons Possession Usually Illegal When on Probation
Third, it raises questions about whether the knife was illegal per se, or whether it was the possession of the knife by Freddie Gray that was illegal. Gray was a convicted felon, and an examination of his criminal record suggests it highly likely that he was on probation when he was arrested and found with the concealed knife. (Anybody with definitive information on Grays probation status, please contact me directly.)
In my experience, it is an invariable condition of probation that possession of a concealed weapon of any type is prohibited.
Note that the explicit language in the Statement of Charges reads that Freddie Gray
"did unlawfully carry, possess and sell a knife commonly known as a switch blade knife, with an automatic spring or other device for opening and/or closing the blade within the limits of Baltimore City. (emphasis added)
Thus if Gray was on probation, and his probation prohibited his possession of a concealed weapon, this unlawful possession would provide adequate probable cause for Grays arrest.
Mosby Issue #4: Misunderstanding How Probable Cause Actually Works
Mosbys asserts that the police failed to establish probable cause for Grays arrest on the basis that she later determined Grays knife (the basis for the arrest) to have been legal. As reported by the New York Times, Mosby claims that the arresting officers:
"failed to establish probable cause for Mr. Grays arrest, as no crime had been committed."
This is simply not how probable cause works in the context of an arrest .
Heres what probable cause does not mean: That the officer making an arrest has determined that the facts on which the arrest is founded are true to an absolute certainty, and that the arrest becomes illegal should these reasonably believed facts later turn out to be untrue or mistaken.
This should be self-evident by the inclusion of the word probable in the phrase probable cause.
Arrests often go uncharged, and charges are often dismissed, and defendants are even acquitted at trial, often based upon a later conclusion that the underlying facts which suggested a crime are untrue or mistaken. None of these outcomes makes the initial arrest illegal.
When an officer makes an arrest based on an articulable statement of probable cause, that arrest becomes illegal only if the officer knew or reasonably should have known that no crime had, in fact, been committed.
In short, police are entitled to make reasonable mistakes, and such a reasonable mistake does not make the arrest illegal.
Such a mistake may, of course, make further prosecution of the offense impractical or outright unjust. But thats a completely different matter than whether an arrest was unlawful.
In the Gray instance, the arresting officer may in fact have been mistaken about whether a spring-assisted knife falls within the statutory prohibition on possession of a switchblade, or on whether Grays possession of the knife while (presumably) on probation was an offense subject to arrest.
But unless he actually knew or reasonably should have known either of those possibilities to be the case, legally-speaking probable cause for the arrest existed, and the arrest itself was not a crime.
Again, if the officer were mistaken the arrest may be defective for purposes of further prosecution. But this does not mean that an officer is limited to making an arrest only in circumstances where criminal conduct is a legal and moral certainty.
A society in which this were required, or permitted would be, I expect, a society that most Americans would find an unpleasant place to live.
Thus, even if it turns out that the knife was legal and that Freddie Gray were legally permitted to possess the knife under the circumstances, if the police officer reasonably believed that either of these were offenses subject to arrest, and neither knew or should have known that this belief was incorrect at the time of the arrest, then there existed probable cause for the arrest, and the arrest itself is entirely lawful from the context of that officers conduct.
The apparent political theater in the announcement of the charges is getting growing criticism, reminiscent of what accompanied the George Zimmerman over-charging and politicized prosecution. Alan Dershowitz on NewsMax:
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I agree that a death in custody is a very serious matter. The circumstances can range from deliberate killing of the suspect to accidental death with or without negligence of the officers. Given what we know of this case, “murder” doesn’t fit any plausible scenario. We’ll see.
Good point on the outstandin warrants,if he had em he had no rights an carryin a knife,any knife is a violation
BUMP!
Agree. Until we have some FACTS - we have nothing but assumptions and hearsay.
So far, many homes, vehicles and businesses have been destroyed by real criminals throwing a temper tantrum based upon nothing but hearsay - with race-baiting media, political leadership and self-promoting race baiters leading the mobs.
Too bad these race baiters aren’t charged with inciting a riot.
"along with involuntary manslaughter, Officer Goodson, 45, was charged with second-degree depraved heart murder, which means indifference to human life."
Only four of the officers were charged with manslaughter. The two not charged were both white.
“He had outstanding warrants.”
If the outstanding warrant you’re referring to is the one dated 3/13, it was served on the 18th, he was committed, and then bonded out.
Maybe so. But what is not a matter of speculation is that he should have been restrained.
Freddie Gray was a useless, drug dealing, insurance claim scamming, pos and waste of oxygen. When his fellow blacks kill such a person it is no big deal to the so called “community”. Black live do not matter when this happens. No way to cash in via lawsuits.
Now enter the police who are tied into this mans death. You get riots, arson and eruptions in the alleged “black community”. Black live matter only when the police are involved. Otherwise crickets, the sound of crickets as punks and gangstas kill punks and gangstas
If he’s on probation and dealing drugs or even in an environment where there is drug dealing, isn’t that enough reason to bring him in?
Unless of course, they didn’t
He was a known criminal and resisting and therefore dangerous.
This is all political theater to calm the rioters.
All 6 cops will be found not guilty and return to duty if they want to or given a nice severance pay to find employment elsewhere.
Gray was clearly attempting to create a lawsuit by banging himself up until he did the job to well and broke his own neck. This pure conjecture but I won’t be surprised to hear it is correct.
However; there is more to the political story. This will be used to cause unrest when the cops are found not guilty. Cities across the nation will have to go into lockdown with Marshal Law right before the 2016 election thereby leaving obummer in office indefinitely. You heard it here first. :)
Every black death will be sensationalized to get the most political effect possible from them. It will be THE meme. Ironically it will be at the end of the 2nd term of the so-called first black president who is actually mostly white and arab with a pinch of black.
Excellent post. Since there is no way these officers can get a fair trial in that jurisdiction, I pray that a change of venue will be granted. Given the amount of negative publicity and the blatant politicalization of the case, surely that will happen. At the very least, this prosecutor should be removed from the case.
I carry something that fits the description. It’s a handy tool that only needs one hand to unpocket, open, use, close and pocket. Takes but a couple of seconds to open a fertilizer bag. It’s almost reflexive and doesn’t even need a glance.
amen, amen, amen
weep not for Freddie
See my #65
I did but also read there were more warrants
I think you are right. According to an officer with inside knowledge of the case, he was seen making a hand to hand transaction with another man just prior to he and the other man fleeing the scene. I suspect , that given the information from Gray’s long crimianl history, he was not a known user of heroin, only a dealer. The fact that heroin showed up in his toxicology report may mean that he swallowed it to keep from being charged with possession. His difficulty breathing may have been a result of that ingestion.
The "riots" in Baltimore and elsewhere invariably involve petty theft, grand theft, and violent revenge.
Don't think for a minute that these are "temper tantrums." It's much more calculated than that.
Have a look at all the pre-printed signs, the outside agitators, the SEIU and Daily Worker involvement. The tragic and unnecessary death of a career criminal is fueling many, many extra agendas, including rationalization for ordinary criminality and the recruitment of radicals.
I’m so glad you are posting this. I was wondering the same thing when I heard the prosecutor’s statement yesterday. I knew the knife was reportedly spring loaded and that he was on probation. I think the prosecutor is wrong and I hope that the charge of false imprisonment gets thrown out at the probable cause hearing.
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