Posted on 03/31/2015 5:20:23 PM PDT by Whenifhow
Today in a pre-trial hearing, an Ohio judge casually agreed with a motion filed by a prosecutor asking to ban a defendant from bringing up the United States Constitution or the constitutionality of the law under which he is charged with a crime.
Judge Catherine Barber (or Kathryn Barber), a retired judge filling in for the Xenia Municipal Judge Michael Murray stated “there will be no mentioning of the Constitution” and then laughed when the defendant claimed that uttering words on a public sidewalk constitutes free speech. (The audio of the hearing can be found here: http://bambuser.com/v/5372976). This was in response to a suggestion from the prosecutor that bringing up the constitution and civil rights “will confuse the jury.”
About a month ago, Virgil Vaduva, a journalist and editor of The Greene County Herald purposefully stood in front of the Xenia police station in an attempt to raise awareness about the constitutionality of the city’s anti-panhandling law.
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The "original and supreme will" is the Declaration of Independence. Subsidiary to that, two frames of government have been formed.
On the 13th Amendment and Bearden v. Georgia, the keyword was willful, IIRC (as in willful refusal to pay as ordered in a civil case). ...debtors’ prisons and all of that, IIRC (rusty, aging memory).It’s been nearly a couple of decades since I looked at that stuff for others, and I’m not a lawyer.
Only remembered a couple of tenuous things about that case, looked it up and sped through a little part of it.
The judicial system and academia, really. The surname majority was noticed by quite a few traditional family advocates early on. Some friendlies of German descent elaborated for us at length with references to cultural historical information and anecdotes from their family lives (cold parents, etc.).
She is retired.......
It appears impossible to point out to her just how important the First Amendment is, at least using the First Amendment. At some point the people (from whom government derives its just powers) will point out the limits of big government using another amendment. This petty dictator should pray that it will not be the Second Amendment that is used to educate power hungry government officials, although other options seem to be failing systematically.
No to paraphrase the Gipper "the Legal System IS the problem."
See, we let Lawyers and Congresscritters mess with it...
play stupid games...
win stupid prizes...
America has won the end all/be all of stupid prizes.
They are just a symptom of the cancer.
More naivete. This judge isn't "stupid." It's a judge. One of the conservative movement's greatest weaknesses is to think of powerful Liberals are being stupid. These aren't stupid people. They're very smart, organized, motivated, aggressive, and are on the war path. This judge knows exactly what's going on.
Picking apart a Liberal's arguments and then pointing out the fallacy in Liberals' positions in a logical fashion worked 20 years ago. It doesn't work anymore.
THAT is the dimocrat, liberal, socialist, communists of Amerika’s agenda. Hussein has done everything he can to do away with the Constitution. And, he has succeeded. The Constitution is basically worthless today. Ignored, abandoned. As is the freedom of the Republic. Destroyed. Gone. America is finished. What we had as kids is gone. It will never come back. The millions upon millions of illegals and the muzzies Obama is bringing here is for that purpose. To simply overload the nation. To swamp the nation into bankruptcy. That will be his greatest accomplishment. Destruction of the US Constitution.
Xenia is pretty far away from Lake Erie. It’s the town that was devastated by an F5 a while back. Apparently the tornado blew this judge’s mind away!
And the prosecuting attorney needs to be disbarred.
Note the mask. You knew that movie had to be the breeding ground of idiots intent on taking down the U. S. way of life.
If you can’t show your face when you support something, it’s not worthy of your support.
I’ve heard that, in my county, they can’t bring “a person of color” up before a jury, regardless of how heinous the crime, because the jury pool is full of people who will not convict anyone darker than a paper bag.
With logic like that I'm surprised they didn't charge you for guns you might have seen.
I see what happened here. This was a procedural matter rather than substantive. If the man had an attorney, this would have been tossed on Constitutional grounds before a trial even started. But a jury is supposed to determine questions of fact, not law, and by failing to raise the Constitutional issue early enough, he lost the ability to raise it. Will he win on appeal? Most likely, since the judge really should have given the pro se defendant leeway, but I can see how he had a role in this travesty.
I couldn’t get anyone to explain how they got to that conclusion except that ... the amount of guns I ever had (in toto) constituted the number of guns I was charged with .... which should have been around 27 ... but ... shhhhhhh ...
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Not necessarily, but I do believe that movie sought to capitalize on what Leftist professors teach in our universities, and encourage an underground in the U. S. intent on overturning our leadership in this nation.
You and I can agree that might not be a terrible idea, but out with the bathwater goes the baby, our Constitution.
Not good overall by any stretch of the imagination.
You can bet your ass, those who seek to topple our form of government, have no problem at all with criminality. They have a very big problem with our Constitution.
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