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Was a student really banned from class for disputing rape statistics?
Campus Reform ^ | March 20, 2015 | Kaitlynn Schallhorn

Posted on 03/20/2015 2:38:06 PM PDT by GrootheWanderer

A male student at the private Reed College in Oregon gained national attention for supposedly being banned from class discussions as he refuted the widely debunked statistic that says one in five college women have been sexually assaulted, but his story has suddenly taken a weird turn.

In an interview with Buzzfeed News, Jeremiah True, a freshman, said that he received an email from his professor that said he could no longer be included in the “conference” portion of the class. The professor, Pancho Savery, said True made several victims of sexual assault who are in the class feel “extremely uncomfortable” by what they see as “undermining incidents of rape.”

But in an exclusive interview with Robby Soave at Reason Magazine, Savery—who Reason deemed an “ ardent defender” of free speech—said it wasn’t True’s apparently controversial opinion that got him banned from the discussion portion of class.

"He was not banned because of what he said but because of a series of disruptive behaviors," Savery told Reason.

Reed Quest, the college’s student newspaper, also reported that True was known for his behavior and upset students throughout the entire course with his comments. According to the student paper, True reportedly claimed that “lower class people didn’t have the ability to create art” and “we shouldn’t blame the people who were responsible for the Holocaust…because they didn’t know any better.”

In his Reason piece, Soave said that he reached out to True for comment, but the student did not answer any of his questions after Soave denied his odd request.

“Before I interview with you, you must agree to make ‘nigger’ be the first word in your article,” True told Soave.

(Excerpt) Read more at campusreform.org ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: college; oregon; rape
This is odd.
1 posted on 03/20/2015 2:38:06 PM PDT by GrootheWanderer
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To: GrootheWanderer

His avocation is agitation of left-wingers. Lars Larson wants him for the show.


2 posted on 03/20/2015 2:43:52 PM PDT by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: GrootheWanderer

It’s been a while since anyone actually used free speech,particularly offensive speech, on any campus. The college doesn’t know how to react.


3 posted on 03/20/2015 2:47:59 PM PDT by CriticalJ (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.. But then I repeat myself. MT)
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To: GrootheWanderer

Later


4 posted on 03/20/2015 2:48:30 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: gaijin

hey pancho...hey cisco


5 posted on 03/20/2015 2:53:04 PM PDT by Palio di Siena
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To: GrootheWanderer

It’s Reed College for Christ sake.

Dr. Demento is a grad...


6 posted on 03/20/2015 2:53:20 PM PDT by BBB333 (Q: Which is grammatically correct? Joe Biden IS or Joe Biden ARE an idiot?)
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To: GrootheWanderer

Questioning the established dogma will result in excommunication.


7 posted on 03/20/2015 2:59:01 PM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Things are only going to get worse.)
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To: GrootheWanderer

He sounds like a gadfly.

But espousing unpopular thoughts is not “behavior.” It is free speech and so long as the student does it respectfully (not interrupting others while speaking, not yelling, etc.) it should not be a problem.

But the one thing liberals cannot stand is unpopular thoughts. Conform or die.


8 posted on 03/20/2015 3:05:26 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (islam: The hands of the Chinese, the mouths of the arabs, the minds of the French.)
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To: GrootheWanderer

I used to argue with teachers — in high school because I strongly disagreed with them (I even deliberately embarrassed them on more than one occasion), in college (Hillsdale) mostly for the intellectual stimulation. This was never a problem.


9 posted on 03/20/2015 3:15:41 PM PDT by TBP (trash only")
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To: GrootheWanderer

What kind of school has “several victims of sexual assault who are in [a single] class”?


10 posted on 03/20/2015 3:19:45 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: TBP

I once argued with a psych. professor on the first day of class. I found out that prior to teaching at this particular college he had been in a mental hospital, and was given electro-shock therapy over a period of time. I dropped the class.


11 posted on 03/20/2015 3:20:31 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: freedumb2003

Once I as in a class and the leader gave an example of this horrible experience having to do with a buyer finding a body that had been there for days. Just that year my estranged husband was found just like that. I sat really still and controlled myself , I managed to not run screaming and crying from the room. After class was over, I went up my best friend and just collapsed on the shoulder crying. I got comfort but the teacher was really wondering what was wrong with me. My best friend handled it all for me I never missed a class I got over it I handled it after that within myself. If you treat a problem like it’s a big mountain it will be a big mountain.


12 posted on 03/20/2015 3:23:32 PM PDT by Shimmer1 (Liberty does not exist in the absence of morality. Edmund Burke)
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To: Shimmer1

Thank you for sharing that. We live in an era in which an entire generation has been self-esteemed onto pedestals. I think of my grandparents’ generation and all they endured: depression, war, liberating a continent, etc. My grandfather lost his leg in an industrial accident before disability rights and automatic automobiles (driving standard is difficult with one leg), but he didn’t have the option of failure. Thirty somethings, a group to which I belong, and younger are screwed if something bad happens to our way of life. God bless!


13 posted on 03/20/2015 3:53:22 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: GrootheWanderer

although the hot buttons are there, pushing them repeatedly in class is counter productive

note to Jeremiah Free Republic is here for that


14 posted on 03/20/2015 3:58:54 PM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: GrootheWanderer

“He was not banned because of what he said but because of a series of disruptive behaviors,” Savery told Reason.


I see.... He didn’t SHUT UP and SIT DOWN...


15 posted on 03/20/2015 4:04:50 PM PDT by hosepipe (" This propaganda has been edited (specifically) to include some fully orbed hyperbole.. ")
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To: goodwithagun; null and void; Vendome

Thank you and I’ll tell you I have to give a lot of the credit to my best friend. He just help me to withstand.


16 posted on 03/20/2015 4:59:53 PM PDT by Shimmer1 (Liberty does not exist in the absence of morality. Edmund Burke)
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To: BBB333

Yeah and Oregon is number 4 onthe list of most people on EBT cards.


17 posted on 03/20/2015 5:03:16 PM PDT by stubernx98 (cranky, but reasonable)
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To: trisham
I once argued with a psych. professor on the first day of class. I found out that prior to teaching at this particular college he had been in a mental hospital, and was given electro-shock therapy over a period of time. I dropped the class.

I obviously don't know the details, but you should know that hospitalization and electroshock therapy was the preferred treatment for chronic depression.

Not that it worked, unless you can call the calm that results from burning out parts of a person's brain "working."

18 posted on 03/20/2015 5:54:55 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: madprof98

A school that says when two equally horny drunk co-eds have sex, the girl was raped the moment she decides she regrets it. This is a standard liberal definition and leading to many boys suspended from college, kicked off campus, denied diplomas, etc. They don’t get due process with the college, often not allowed legal representation at hearings that decide if they are removed from school, can’t question witnesses, can’t call their own witnesses, and in some cases, were not allowed to present text message history and email that showed he still dated the girl for weeks after the supposed rape.

A school that considers a girl pressured to have sex is rape, even if there was no violence or coercion. A guy begging for sex and her giving in is thus classified as rape.

A school that considers someone questioning the “rape culture” concept and stated rate of 20% college girls raped as an act of rape. There are feminists that say that questioning a rape victim or stats on rape is equivalent to rape, too.


19 posted on 03/20/2015 6:03:52 PM PDT by tbw2
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