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Pope Francis: 'You cannot make fun of the faith of others'
The Telegraph ^ | 1/15/2015 | Nick Squires

Posted on 01/16/2015 7:39:02 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist

Pope Francis has weighed into the debate over freedom of expression in the wake of the religious attacks in Paris, saying that anyone who insults a religion can expect a "punch in the nose".

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He said "If my good friend Dr Gasparri says a curse word against my mother [Mary?], he can expect a punch in the nose."

Throwing a pretend punch, the Pope said: "It's normal. You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others."

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(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: catholic; charliehebdo; christianity; islam; jesuischarile; jesus; judaism; mary; mohammed; paris; popefrancis
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Is Francis saying, "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you?"

If one goes full-bore on free speech (which I personally believe in) and there is going to be a Charlie Hebdo like march, and all sorts of people show up mocking Islam, the Pope, Jesus, and have pics of the Dung Mary, Piss Christ and so on, then if you truly support unbridled free speech you will have to suck it up, and temporarily suspend your offense over your own faith being mocked and go all-out for free speech (as there would be people there mocking every faith).

1 posted on 01/16/2015 7:39:02 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

If the Pope doesn’t grasp the concept of “turn the other cheek”, something’s wrong.


2 posted on 01/16/2015 7:40:50 AM PST by ctdonath2 (Si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

“Burn them at the stake like Jan Hus, sure. But don’t make fun of them.”


3 posted on 01/16/2015 7:41:39 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I think people are making way too much of this.

All the guy was trying to say is that while it might be legal to make fun of another religion, it is not polite. And we should be polite.

How is this even news?


4 posted on 01/16/2015 7:42:16 AM PST by Vermont Lt (Ebola: Death is a lagging indicator.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
The Church has had many towering intellectuals, but Frances is not one of them.
5 posted on 01/16/2015 7:42:30 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Offend a Christian and he is obliged to pray for you. Offend a Muslim and he is obliged to kill you.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Really?

1 Kings 18:27 (ESV)

27 And at noon Elijah mocked them, saying, “Cry aloud, for he is a god. Either he is musing, or he is relieving himself, or he is on a journey, or perhaps he is asleep and must be awakened.”


6 posted on 01/16/2015 7:43:03 AM PST by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist; All

It seems that one would have to go all out for free speech in a march like this, or go by what Francis has to say. It looks like it is one or the other...

I wonder if he is basically saying “So in everything, do unto others as you would have them do unto you” Jesus Christ, Matthew 7:12 Luke 6:31.


7 posted on 01/16/2015 7:43:12 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Theres a lot in any idea about the unknowable to criticize, question, ridicule or doubt. Thats the nature of the unknowable.


8 posted on 01/16/2015 7:43:19 AM PST by muir_redwoods ("He is a very shallow critic who cannot see an eternal rebel in the heart of a conservative." G.K .C)
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To: cuban leaf

Well said!


9 posted on 01/16/2015 7:44:06 AM PST by impimp
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To: Vermont Lt

From my personal perspective, it is because he even deigned to consider Islam (which is at the root of his statement) a religion or a faith. It is a disease.


10 posted on 01/16/2015 7:45:06 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: cuban leaf

Is Pope Francis saying what Jesus said: “So in everything, do unto others as you would have them do unto you”?

I think that is what he is getting at. I may be wrong, though...

You draw an interesting comparison between Jesus and Elijah.

Do you support going full bore at marches and accepting the mockery of all faiths at theses marches, even yours?


11 posted on 01/16/2015 7:45:33 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Vermont Lt
I agree with you. But he's the Pope and on here, he is just slightly more acceptable then Mohammad or whatever the Hell the head of the Mohammedans name is, because frankly I don't care. My dog and I love to eat bacon. :)
12 posted on 01/16/2015 7:45:40 AM PST by defconw (If not now, WHEN?)
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There is nothing wrong with being offended and voicing your feelings. It when we are not allowed to speak by some authority that our right to free speech is abridged.

As much as I disdain Frank and his phoniness, he probably meant that we shouldn't make fun of other religions. Either that or he's really letting his kneejerk Marxist lust for control be manifested.

13 posted on 01/16/2015 7:46:22 AM PST by Dr. Thorne ("Don't be afraid. Just believe." - Mark 5:36)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Hey Frank, the prophet Elijah made fun of Baal.

Michael Savage was right when he labeled you as "Lenin's pope".

14 posted on 01/16/2015 7:47:53 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I would ask, “Your Holiness....what if it wasn’t a faith, but a murderous death-cult? Would it be okay to make fun of it then?”


15 posted on 01/16/2015 7:47:58 AM PST by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: Vermont Lt

I think he may have been saying that we should do unto others as we would have them do unto us (Matthew 7:12, Luke 6: 31), or it is equally likely that he is saying what you have pointed out.


16 posted on 01/16/2015 7:47:59 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Do you support going full bore at marches and accepting the mockery of all faiths at theses marches, even yours?


No. Like so many things “religious” it is both much simpler and much more complex. i.e. it depends on the circumstances. Mocking for the sake of mocking is pointless. But the 1 Kings example I used was something different.


17 posted on 01/16/2015 7:48:23 AM PST by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Do they drug test Popes? Just curious..


18 posted on 01/16/2015 7:49:02 AM PST by cardinal4 (Certified Islamophobe..)
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To: cuban leaf

Great minds.... haha...

We thought of the same verse, but I wanted a graphic (see above).

Congrats for being the first to post!


19 posted on 01/16/2015 7:49:15 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: fishtank

Frank probably hasn’t read that.


20 posted on 01/16/2015 7:49:29 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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