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Teacher to student: If you don't support gay marriage, drop my class
Fox News ^ | November 22, 2014 | Todd Starnes

Posted on 11/22/2014 1:37:55 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

Students who oppose gay marriage are homophobic, according to an audio recording of a Marquette University instructor who went on to say that gay right issues cannot be discussed in class because it might offend homosexuals.

I reached out to the 20-year-old student at the center of this outrageous episode and the story he tells should serve as a warning to anyone who thinks religious schools are safe havens for open discourse.

The story was first reported on a blog run by a Marquette University professor and was picked up by the good folks over at The College Fix.

The young man, who asked not to be identified, explained what happened when his ethics instructor, Cheryl Abbate, led a conversation in “Theory of Ethics” class about applying philosophical theories to modern political controversies. There were a list of issues on the board – gay rights, gun rights, and the death penalty.

“We had a discussion on all of them – except gay rights,” the student told me. “She erased that line from the board and said, ‘We all agree on this.’”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: academicbias; cherylabbate; education; gays; homofascism; homosexualagenda; indoctrination; marquetteuniversity; milwaukee; naughtyteacherslist; romancatholicism; teachers; thoughtcrime; wisconsin
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I would be remiss if I did not address the student’s behavior. A full review of the audio tape reveals the student was in fact disrespectful to the instructor. And when the instructor asked if she was being recorded, the student did not tell the truth.

I asked the young man about his behavior and he admitted to me that it was wrong. He told me that he “regretted” his actions.

It may be illegal, but it's not immoral. You do what it takes to defend a society. Rest assure the Left will not lose sleep over releasing secret recordings.

101 posted on 11/22/2014 3:50:38 PM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (antine)
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To: Catmom

Vegan Feminist Network, for feminists who are vegetables.


102 posted on 11/22/2014 4:53:38 PM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: sbMKE

Father Marquette wants his name back.


103 posted on 11/22/2014 4:57:36 PM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: reg45

...or use them...


104 posted on 11/22/2014 6:37:10 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Gen.Blather

I believe it. smh


105 posted on 11/22/2014 8:38:38 PM PST by Albion Wilde (It is better to offend a human being than to offend God.)
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To: Carry_Okie

I have a better idea.

Complete separation of school and state! No interference! None!


106 posted on 11/22/2014 8:59:36 PM PST by wintertime
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To: wintertime
Complete separation of school and state! No interference! None!

Wishful thinking is not positive. In this political climate your wish as a hard demarcation will never happen. What I posted is a way to get there.

107 posted on 11/22/2014 9:12:50 PM PST by Carry_Okie (Those who profess noblesse oblige regress to droit du seigneur.)
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To: Carry_Okie
The plan I outlined is not wishful thinking and is already working. Vouchers, charters, and tax credits are increasing every year. Record numbers of children are be educated outside of the grip of our nation's K-12 single-payer schools. The reason is that pressure from the voting public has forced legislators to provide these alternatives. It will continue to grow.

In my state there has been a flood of children who are nowusing On-line programs. Yes, they are offered by the state but they are run by privately-owned companies.

What is needed is **less** control from state agencies and school boards and more opportunity to choose private alternatives. Do this and the reforms you seek will naturally follow, as well.

108 posted on 11/23/2014 7:01:43 AM PST by wintertime
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To: Carry_Okie
The communists furthered their goals gradually. Those supporting the Constitution can do so, as well.

Will we ever see complete separation of school and state? Likely not, but this should be the goal. If an arrow isn't pointed at the target it will never hit the bullseye.

109 posted on 11/23/2014 7:04:48 AM PST by wintertime
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To: wintertime
The plan I outlined is not wishful thinking and is already working. Vouchers, charters, and tax credits are increasing every year.

The wishful thinking was the complete elimination of all public education in one fell swoop, as your post stated but perhaps was not what you meant:

I have a better idea.

Complete separation of school and state! No interference! None!

At least that is how I interpret a post like that, as not a means but a goal and completely unrealistic. As to vouchers as an intermediate step, Friedman proposed that fifty years ago and we're still not up to 5%. I'd call that an ineffective plan.
110 posted on 11/23/2014 7:49:40 AM PST by Carry_Okie (Those who profess noblesse oblige regress to droit du seigneur.)
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To: Catmom
I’m so tired of these insane women.

In their zeal to attack the “patriarchy” they’ve done nothing but to undermine the strength of the Western society that has made their safe, comfortable lives possible.

They’re not gonna like how this could end.

What do leftists, which is what these "women" are, care about comfort, safety or the Western society? These leftists are against all of that. Ergo, why they work tirelessly to destroy it. My question is....why do we or have we conservatives, who do not want all of that destroyed, allowed them to do this for decades now? Why do we still let them get away with it? Why no major pushback?

111 posted on 11/23/2014 8:04:43 AM PST by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie)
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To: Mamzelle

Just get rid of liberal arts classes entirely.

...bad idea...really bad...what if in the future all physics instructors became raving lefties...you’d want to ban physics as well...?

...just because the messenger is a jerk doesn’t invalidate the value of the message...


112 posted on 11/23/2014 8:19:38 AM PST by IrishBrigade
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To: baddog 219

Every Vegan I ever met, where hyper PYSCHO....

...huh...?


113 posted on 11/23/2014 8:29:15 AM PST by IrishBrigade
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To: wintertime

Gradually, parents should be expected to pay for schooling.

...are you suggesting that parents do not pay for public schooling now...in addition to myself, who do not even have a child in the school system...?

...the price I pay for living in the house I choose feeds the gaping public school maw...


114 posted on 11/23/2014 8:42:53 AM PST by IrishBrigade
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To: Carry_Okie
( Please read the last sentence of this post.)

Ten years ago, in my state there were less than 10 charter schools. Today there are over 100. That is explosive growth. All are privately owned and run. That is hopeful news to me and definitely on the trajectory toward privatization of the delivery of education. There is tremendous demand for these charter schools and the waiting lists are HUGE!

Specifically, what are your goals for children?

My goal is to improve educational outcomes. I suggest that to do that there must be:

-— an increase in freedom of choice for all parents in the education of their children,

-—a reduction in the number of teachers in this nation that are members of a union and their influence over the political process in this nation. One of the most effective ways to do this is to reduce the number of children in the nation's K-12 single-payer and socialist-entitlement schools. Fewer kids in the single-payer schools means few teachers and union dues.

— and a decrease government interference in education on every level from the federal government down to the town levels. Thankfully, homeschoolers are proving that overall outcomes for children can be excellent without any interference by the government whatsoever. The evidence is plain for all to see among homeschoolers.

-—Vouchers, tax credits, and charters have already increased the private infrastructure and have increased private choices to parents.

Again, is complete separation of schooling and state likely? I agree with you. It probably is unrealistic but I suggest that we make this the bullseye. The move should always be toward this goal. Anything less than this an we may miss the target completely.

115 posted on 11/23/2014 9:01:22 AM PST by wintertime
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To: IrishBrigade
..are you suggesting that parents do not pay for public schooling now..
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I feel your pain about feeding the “SS school” monster.

Parents don't pay at the point of delivery of service. As it is now, when they drop their kid off at their local K-12 single-payer and socialist-entitlement school ( SS schools) the fee is “tuition-free”.

No citizen should be under police threat to pay for teaching children to think and reason godlessly in compulsory-use government schools whose worldview is solidly godless.

No citizen should be under the threat of losing their property at a sheriff sale to pay for schools that teach children to be comfortable with socialism. Gee! if the voting mob can give a child tuition-free schooling, isn't the child at risk of learning that this same mob can give them **lots** of “free” stuff?

Fundamentally, government SS schooling is a First Amendment, human rights, and freedom of conscience abomination.

116 posted on 11/23/2014 9:09:11 AM PST by wintertime
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To: wintertime
Ten years ago, in my state there were less than 10 charter schools. Today there are over 100. That is explosive growth.

You were talking about vouchers, not charter schools.

Specifically, what are your goals for children?

I thought you knew. Consider the results.

117 posted on 11/23/2014 9:10:52 AM PST by Carry_Okie (Those who profess noblesse oblige regress to droit du seigneur.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

infest Western patriarchal thinking-————

That is an automatic stopping point for this patriarch.


118 posted on 11/23/2014 9:13:50 AM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: Carry_Okie

The plan I outlined is not wishful thinking and is already working. Vouchers, charters, and tax credits are increasing every year.

The above is from post #108. Please note that I included “charters”.


119 posted on 11/23/2014 9:14:43 AM PST by wintertime
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To: wintertime
Vouchers, charters, and tax credits are increasing every year.

The data you supplied were for charters only, after you had posted about vouchers, only in post 95. You have posted no data on the growth of vouchers, which has been pathetic. So you switched to the growth of charters as evidence of efficacy toward your goals. Charters are still publicly funded and don't have the freedoms they tout. They're better, but not close to enough.

Unless you have a plan to defund the machine while simultaneously providing alternatives that include adequate infrastructure, the machine will continue. This is why I am thinking in terms of privatizing the machine from within while weakening the funding mechanics of the political opposition and growing the replacement upon existing bases.

120 posted on 11/23/2014 10:03:54 AM PST by Carry_Okie (Those who profess noblesse oblige regress to droit du seigneur.)
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