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Doctors: 'Irresponsible' to send troops to 'combat' Ebola
WND.com ^ | September 18, 2014 | Chelsea Schilling

Posted on 09/20/2014 8:35:57 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

A real-life horror story is playing out in Africa as Ebola spreads, and President Obama’s decision to send 3,000 troops to Liberia to combat the virus could very well put Americans at risk of contracting the deadly illness at home, some health experts say.

According to the World Health Organization, at least 4,985 people have contracted Ebola and at least 2,461 have died. Several doctors have fallen ill with Ebola, and two of them have died. New reports indicate a Doctors Without Borders staff member has contracted the virus in Liberia and will be evacuated to France for treatment.

“You can see that these doctors, who are highly trained people, got themselves infected,” said Dr. Lee Hieb, former president of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons. “So sending troops into an area, if they’re dealing one-on-one with a patient, they’re not going to be able to protect themselves very well. It’s not easy to [prevent transmission], because you get tired and you get careless and you make some simple mistakes. All it takes is one virus particle.”

Dr. Hieb said quarantine measures should be taken to control the outbreak and prevent Ebola from coming to America.

“You don’t get Ebola from Europe,” she told WND. “You get Ebola from Africa. And it’s a really simple formula: Don’t let people fly to America if they’ve been to areas where there’s an outbreak. When there’s an outbreak, stop air [traffic] flow.”

Hieb added, “If they’re going to use the troops to do population control, which is one of the ways you contain it, basically you just don’t let anybody out. You’d make a ring around where it is, and you’d quarantine the area.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: africa; ebola; eboladoctors; ebolaoutbreak; ebolatroops; health; military
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To: Jane Long

In the past we have always helped out mostly through the CDC sending medical experts; doctors, etc. Not 3,000 troops.

It looks like we are going to build a 25 bed Ebola unit for $22 million. So about a million a bed. Such a deal! (sarc) Our guys are also supposed to deliver sanitation kits to 400,000 households which is a good idea except I would think they would be highly at risk of getting exposed. You would think the US could deliver the kits and then the Liberian authorities could deliver house to house. Why do our guys have to do it?


141 posted on 09/21/2014 1:38:19 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: null and void

I am not a proponent of sending our troops to West Africa. I don’t want them anywhere near Ebola, but who is going to protect our agency personnel in-country over there? Should we pull out all U.S. personnel, including over 100 CDC staff? I don’t know. What is the risk if we let Ebola continue to spiral out of control as infections rise 700 a week? I don’t know that either.

I am also not a fan of WND’s journalism. The troops will not be dealing with patients one-on-one and shutting off air traffic to and from West Africa will not stop Ebola.

This is an unprecedented, unmitigated disaster.


142 posted on 09/21/2014 1:43:33 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: ansel12
Listen up jerk. I'm getting just a little bit more than tired of your ongoing Trolling me every time I reply to you. I didn't reply till YOU PINGED ME. You're an ass ansel please take it personal and please stop pinging me for your Trolling Pleasure. I have made this request several times before. Many times actually... For Admin Mods info the poster engages in these tactics on a regular basis. Google both our user name to FR and it's there.

You deserve no more replies because you're a Trolling Jerk. I know considerably more on how the Engineering Dept works on a ship and it's readiness standards of ship and crew than you because I worked in Engineering Dept so get lost.

143 posted on 09/21/2014 1:44:11 PM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: Bigg Red

I will say his connections to Islam wouldn’t have been what this clown’s are.

Other than that, much of Obama’s agenda would have been implemented. It would be called RomneyCare, but it would be there.

I voted for him, but it was one of the most luke warm votes in my lifetime. That one, the vote for Dull, and Bush the second time around, made me sick for days voting for those guys.


144 posted on 09/21/2014 1:45:07 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama and the Left are maggots feeding off the flesh of the United States.)
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To: cva66snipe

Are you on medication? I don’t know how you managed to find a way to turn this simple exchange into a monstrous injustice against you.

No one is trolling you in this simple exchange about Reagan and Carter’s military service.

You thought that Reagan was in the “artillery” and he wasn’t.

You seem mistaken about Rickover and Carter as well **I wish Carter had made it into the Nuke program just long enough for Rickover to have yanked a half hitch in his arse and pulled it so tight he walked leaned right for life LOL.**

You keep going on, and on, and on, about Rickover and Carter, but Rickover handpicked Carter for his nuke sub program.

“When Admiral Hyman G. Rickover (then a captain) started his program to create nuclear powered submarines, Carter wanted to join the program and was interviewed by Rickover. On 1 June 1952, Carter was promoted to Lieutenant. Selected by Rickover, Carter was detached on 16 October 1952 from K-1 for duty with the U. S. Atomic Energy Commission, Division of Reactor Development in Schenectady, New York. From 3 November 1952 to 1 March 1953, he served on temporary duty with the Naval Reactors Branch, U. S. Atomic Energy Commission, Washington, DC to assist “in the design and development of nuclear propulsion plants for naval vessels.” From 1 March to 8 October, Carter was preparing to become the engineering officer for the nuclear power plant to be placed in USS Seawolf (SSN 575), one of the first submarines to operate on atomic power. He assisted in setting up training for the enlisted men who would serve on Seawolf. During this time his father became very sick and died in July 1953. After his father’s death in 1953, Carter resigned from the Navy to return to Georgia to manage the family interests. Carter was honorably discharged on 9 October 1953”


Reagan wasn’t artillery, and Carter was handpicked by Rickover for nuke subs.


145 posted on 09/21/2014 2:43:46 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12
There you go again. Reagan was initially an Army reservist ASSIGNED TO AN ARTILLERY UNIT in the ARMY Reserves. He likely even drilled with them on fire mission trainings. I did in my unit. I did a year Army NG stint in an Artillery unit.

Look it up about Reagan.. Troll. I did. I posted his vision made staying in that unit impossible. I posted he then transferred did I not TROLL? Of course I did.

Again your same tactics and you are trying your nonsense on others on this thread too who think Obama is wrong to send troops into Africa. So which do you love and support more Obama or Carter? Wanna play games there's you one right back in your face Troll.

By Carter being in Nuke Program I meant an actual "Qualified and Deployed" crewmember which he never was. He would have had to passed while onboard O.R.E. and P.E.B. or it's equivalent for nuke propulsion which is done at sea. You're spoiling for a fight. Get Lost.

146 posted on 09/21/2014 3:08:06 PM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: cva66snipe

You aren’t making sense, Carter was handpicked by Rickover and was exceptional in the nuke program until he left because of his father’s death, yet you want to rage about him not being able to cut it if he had stayed in and served in the job that he was heading for and that Rickover chose him for.

And this business about Reagan being in the Artillery, what are you raving about, when was Reagan an artilleryman?


147 posted on 09/21/2014 3:16:02 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12
http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/archives/reference/military.html
http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=1660
Two sources of Reagan's service. If he wasn't Artillery his vision would not have mattered as much. Heck I got in the Navy and Army NG with only one eye functional vision.
148 posted on 09/21/2014 3:18:07 PM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: cva66snipe

This is baffling, what are you raving about?

Reagan was never in the artillery, and having been an artillery instructor I’m curious why eyesight would be more important there than in the cavalry?


149 posted on 09/21/2014 3:25:33 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: DoughtyOne

True, Romney would not be connected to mohammedanism, and I am sure he does not burn with hatred for the USA, but he would be owned by whoever it is that is pushing for One World government. Illegals still would be pouring in. Romney would just not be rubbing our faces in it.

Yes, I reluctantly voted for Romney, as well. And I literally cried myself to sleep on election night. I knew that the election was stolen, and I knew that our nation would never be the same.


150 posted on 09/21/2014 3:30:01 PM PDT by Bigg Red (31 May 2014: Obamugabe officially declares the USA a vanquished subject of the Global Caliphate.)
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To: cva66snipe

Yet another link about Reagan http://www.usa-presidents.info/reagan.htm


151 posted on 09/21/2014 3:39:34 PM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: cva66snipe

Too bad that Reagan was never connected to the artillery in any way.


152 posted on 09/21/2014 3:51:18 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

Too bad Reagan isn’t here now. He would probably punch Bronco in the face and then send him to attack Ebola.


153 posted on 09/21/2014 3:55:37 PM PDT by eyedigress (e(zOld storm chaser from the west)/?s)
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To: Gritty
He can lock the military down and destroy it at the same time.

After that, Putin and Xi can stop by to mop up.

154 posted on 09/21/2014 6:46:08 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The mods stole my tagline.)
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To: ansel12

Even BuMed would be challenged to build a BSL4 containment facility with only military resources.

BTW, a 25 bed hospital is only a drop in the bucket at this stage.


155 posted on 09/21/2014 7:40:16 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: ansel12

It will take at least 2 years to build each hospital individually, assuming supply chains are unbroken while the disease runs rampant, doubling about every 1-3 months.

Those 25-500 beds will really help out when the numbers are pushing 2million infected in 2 years. /s

(The plan is only off by about 5 orders of magnitude.)


156 posted on 09/21/2014 7:51:27 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: blackdog

I’m glad you got better.


157 posted on 09/21/2014 8:11:10 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The mods stole my tagline.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Same type of infection that got Jim Henssen, of The Muppet's. You go from perfectly fine to kidney failure in the matter of two days. Now whenever I get one of those little annoying hangnail thingies I apply antibiotic ointment to the finger and wrap it in a Band-Aid for 24 hours. Then before yanking it off I soak my fingers in betadine surgical scrub and then again after.
158 posted on 09/21/2014 8:23:46 PM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: blackdog

We use betadine on all skin breaks at my house. It’s the first thing my kids ask for.


159 posted on 09/21/2014 8:24:59 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Cvengr

So you don’t have that source asked for, will you now show the source that says we are building a BSL 4 containment facility in Africa, the prototype first created by our Army, and eventually expanded to civilians.


160 posted on 09/21/2014 8:26:46 PM PDT by ansel12
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