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Genetic Roots of Ashkenazi Jews
The Scientist ^ | 10/8/13 | Kate Yandell

Posted on 10/08/2013 11:57:29 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck

The majority of Ashkenazi Jews are descended from prehistoric European women, according to study published today (October 8) in Nature Communications. While the Jewish religion began in the Near East, and the Ashkenazi Jews were believed to have origins in the early indigenous tribes of this region, new evidence from mitochondrial DNA, which is passed on exclusively from mother to child, suggests that female ancestors of most modern Ashkenazi Jews converted to Judaism in the north Mediterranean around 2,000 years ago and later in west and central Europe.

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KEYWORDS: genetics; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; history; jews
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To: DManA

Same with a friend from work. He was Japanese and had people talk to him in Spanish all the time.

My mom was Mexican (ancestry), and in her elder years, she was mistaken for my Chinese sister-in-laws mom. And I saw a Chinese woman at an asian market who could have been my mom’s sister.

Based on MtDNA, my mom had almost 60% native halogroup origin, with the highest concentration amongst Peru and Bolivia. B2b MtDNA.


81 posted on 10/08/2013 7:05:04 PM PDT by Betis70
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To: DManA

The Ainu.


82 posted on 10/08/2013 7:07:00 PM PDT by Betis70
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To: hlmencken3

Yes, you’re right. Though perhaps in the millions, it wouldn’t have been that large.


83 posted on 10/08/2013 7:13:37 PM PDT by SJackson (As a black man, you know, Barack could get shot going to the gas station, Michelle on Chicago)
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To: DManA

At the sushi place I noticed Asian looking Mexicans are the new itamae.


84 posted on 10/08/2013 7:40:29 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: not2be4gotten.com

Live with it. It is the truth, it is well documented, and you cannot change it.


85 posted on 10/08/2013 8:16:39 PM PDT by Never A Dull Moment
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To: DesScorp; Jewbacca

86 posted on 10/08/2013 8:26:05 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Jewbacca

Am I the only person in Judaism who *likes* gefilte fish?


87 posted on 10/08/2013 8:29:44 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: SunkenCiv

ping


88 posted on 10/08/2013 8:40:11 PM PDT by Fractal Trader
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To: Ben Ficklin

The Roman renamed the Jews and Israel “Palestine” as a demeaning insult to remind the Jews of the humiliation of the Greek invasion and take over centuries earlier. ( Google the holiday of Hannukah- that is where it comes from) The Romans gave the Jews and Israel this name during the siege of Jerusalem which took place on Tisha B’Av, 70 A.D. (See the writtings of Josephus Flavius and Titus.)

As a side note, the writtings of Josephus are translated into English and are a fascinating read.


89 posted on 10/08/2013 8:46:42 PM PDT by Never A Dull Moment
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To: Jewbacca

I seem to remember hearing once that a would-be convert has to be turned away something like four times, but that when they return the fifth time, the rabbi begins instructing them.


90 posted on 10/08/2013 8:48:21 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Slings and Arrows
Am I the only person in Judaism who *likes* gefilte fish?

I like it with horseradish. I just get a bit unnerved when I have to blow dust off the store shelf jar.
91 posted on 10/08/2013 8:51:13 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media. No Blood For Ego!)
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To: PA Engineer

*chuckle*


92 posted on 10/08/2013 9:19:32 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Yehuda

Mmmm...srichacha!


95 posted on 10/08/2013 10:53:51 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: ek_hornbeck

I can’t imagine mistaking a Japanese person for a Mexican


I know a handsome young college student with a Latino last name and with a blonde Caucasian mom, and I assumed his looks descended from his Hispanic dad. Well one day I was talking with him, and it turns out that the guy I thought was his bio dad was his step dad and he adopted him, hence the Latino name. His bio dad was Japanese! He did not look at all Japanese. Interesting. He had darker skin than mom, and curly brown hair and almond eyes like his mexican adoptive dad!


96 posted on 10/08/2013 11:27:33 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Yehuda

‘I didn’t know when I married Mrs. Right
that HER first name is “Always”’.................


97 posted on 10/09/2013 6:14:01 AM PDT by Red Badger (TANSTAAFL always wins. Always...........................)
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To: Never A Dull Moment
I understand what you are saying but I know that is highly disputed.

In earlier times, place names or area names varied by size, thru time, and between beholders. Like today, where does west Texas end and begin or where is the border between S. California and N. California. There were no nation states or borders back then. Places like Palestine or Syria waxed and waned.

I still have a copy of Josephus. I used to have a sizable library of books dealing with history, archeology, religion, etc. I sold almost all of them when I retired but kept a few for reference, including Josephus. On one hand I regret selling them but I didn't have to haul them around.

So today's Zionist Jews are mostly Ashkenazi Jews? It seems like I recall that the Christian Long Haired Kings of France were originally part of the Jewish diaspora. But I'm not sure about Charles de Gaulle. Or Prince Charles.

98 posted on 10/09/2013 7:24:11 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: ek_hornbeck

It sounds like the “1st” Ashkenazi moms (or at least a good many of them) were the local (northern mediterranean and further north) wives of Jewish men from the diaspora from Israel, caused by the deteriorting state of affairs, and two wars, between the Romnans who demanded submission and the Jews of Israel/Palestine who did not want to submit.


99 posted on 10/09/2013 8:15:15 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Ben Ficklin
Prince Charles may be a descendant of Muhammad. There was a marriage in the late Middle Ages between a Muslim princess (from either North Africa or Muslim Spain) with a Christian ruling family, and she was supposedly a descendant of Muhammad. There is a story that when the author Robert Graves met Queen Elizabeth, he told her they had something in common--they were both descended from the Prophet Muhammad.

One of the 6th-century Merovingian kings forced a number of Jews in his kingdom to convert to Christianity. Presumably those people have many living descendants who are unaware of what happened to their 6th-century ancestors. There are undoubtedly a lot of Europeans who an unaware of being descended from someone who was Jewish but converted either under compulsion or voluntarily--probably it would be impossible for a European to prove he has no Jewish ancestry whatever (expect possibly Icelanders).

100 posted on 10/09/2013 8:21:01 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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