Posted on 09/22/2013 11:10:57 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
Sen. Rand Paul conceded Saturday that congressional Republicans have little chance of stopping Obamacare.
“We probably can’t defeat or get rid of Obamacare,” the Kentucky senator told reporters at a gathering of Michigan Republicans, according to the Associated Press.
Paul acknowledged that time is running out for Congress to pass a government funding bill, however he said House Republicans’ efforts to defund Obamacare in its government funding bill could lead to a compromise.
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Reid has said any bill defunding Obamacare would be dead on arrival, and Sen. John McCain said Thursday that it was “not rational” to think the Senate would pass anything defunding the program.
(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...
Cruz,Lee and Sarah for me.
I have always thought of Paul more like his dad than a conservative and after reading some of the liberaltarian posts on here this past week then I know why I ma not a liberaltarian.
All drugs legal, public sex legal, homosexuality open borders, no thank you, I’ll stay a conservative.
Congress CANNOT shut down GOVERNMENT... at all..
They can only shut down the federal givernment..
We have two other governments more important than the federal government.. i.e. State and Local government..
We have THREE governments..
And even then the House will shut down only PARTS of the federal government..
Saying the HOUSE will shut down GOVERNMENT IS A LIE..
This went right over the heads of republican Barney Fifes..
Are there ANY republicans in the House with any sense?.. evidently NOT..
Shutting down the feds for awhile will NOT effect the States or Locals in any way..
If you read every word that Rand Paul said...you get a different view completely from what the mainstream media is hawking!!! I think like you...that Paul, Cruz and Lee are smart, perceptive guys, strategic thinkers and are plotting right now!!!
The left-wing media is in full panic mode, because like Obama’s serious flub on Syria, where he was caught fully asleep by the American people’s resistance to his stupid “Red Line” remarks, they full know and understand that the majority of the American people side with the Lee/Cruz stance!!! So.....Americans all, do your freedom thing, voice your opinion....sign & endorse the Lee/Cruz petition to Dfund Obamacare, right now...TODAY!!!
(WWW.DONTFUNDOBAMACARE.COM)
How to middle finger the O/Crats: We know the O/Care ship is listing---ready to heave--- maybe do a Costa Concordia into the Potomac.
THE BAD NEWS KEEPS COMING Reuters reports the US government on Wednesday scaled back its projections for Obamacare's impact in 2014, saying the law would generate slower healthcare spending growth and provide coverage to only half as many of America's uninsured as anticipated last year.
The biggest factor in the change stems from the U.S. Supreme Court verdict last year allowing each state to decide whether to expand the public Medicaid program for the poor under Obama's healthcare reform law. Republican leaders in nearly half of the nation's 50 states have rejected the expansion.
HHS now expects 11 million uninsured Americans to obtain coverage next year, down from about 22 million projected a year ago, according to the report, which appeared in the journal Health Affairs. (Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...
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There's also lawsuits and state problems.
HERE'S HOW THEY'RE STOPPING OBAMACARE A West Virginia nonprofit has turned down a federal grant it received to help residents navigate new health insurance options under the Affordable Care Act after it received an inquiry from Attorney General Patrick Morrisey about how it would protect consumer information. Clarksburg-based West Virginia Parent Training Inc. did not respond to a letter it received from Morrisey directing it to answer 26 questions about the group's personnel and hiring practices, including employee background checks and employee monitoring programs, the Sunday Gazette-Mail (http://bit.ly/17M1QVe) reported. (Excerpt) Read more at sanluisobispo.com ...
YOUR TURN--Contact your state AG---ask him/her to issue a letter of inquiry to groups receiving federal "Navigator" grants. The inquiry should center on questions WRT how the group intends to protect consumer data.
In particular, the questionnaire should ask if the tax-funded "Navigator" program intends to transfer personal/ financial/medical data of the insured to the local/county/national Democrat Party, relevant Unions, banks, investment companies, drug companies, insurance companies. Trial Lawyers' associations and whether "Navigators" have sub rosa contracts with these, and other groups, plan to profit, to provide significant info to enrich databases for pecuniary purposes.
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PLANNED PARENTHOOD WILL HAVE ACCESS TO SS#, TAX, MEDICAL INFORMATION
Breitbart Big Government ^ | 8/23/2013 | William Bigelow / FR Posted by markomalley
EXCERPT Planned Parenthood is about to obtain access to your Social Security number, tax form, bank account, and medical records.
With the advent of ObamaCare, consumers buying health insurance through health care exchanges will be required to speak to “navigators.” “Navigators” are supposed to help consumers find the best coverage and ascertain whether they are eligible for a federal subsidy.
Any “navigator” will have access to the federal data hub, which holds information from the Department of Health and Human Services, the IRS, the Social Security Administration, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), the Defense Department, the Office of Personnel Management, the Veterans Health Administration, and the Peace Corps.
Planned Parenthood received $655,000 from the Obama administration to hire navigators. In Iowa, Planned Parenthood of the Heartland received $214,427; in Montana, Intermountain Planned Parenthood, Inc. got $295,604; and in New Hampshire, Planned Parenthood of Northern New England raked in $145,161.
And there is not much scrutiny over who these “navigators” will be; HHS will not require background checks or fingerprinting, and a previous criminal conviction, even if it was for identity theft , will not trigger a rejection. To make matters worse, the administration has cut the new employees’ training from 30 hours to 20 and reduced screening.
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OKLAHOMA WINS FIRST OCARE BATTLE: Quoting AG Pruitt--- "Obamacare was meant to be so open-ended that it could mean anything. We are seeing thousands of pages of new rules being written, both by HHS and the IRS. The open-ended interpretation of Obamacare enables this.....if the law doesn't contain a particular provision, no problem. They just make it up as they go along."
"Such is the case that involves the OK lawsuit."
“The court rejected the federal government’s argument that Oklahoma lacked standing to challenge the law, allowing us to proceed with this pivotal case,” “We’re optimistic the court will recognize what states have known for months that the IRS disregarded the law by making the large employer mandate effective in Oklahoma or in any of the 33 other states without a state health care exchange.”
REFERENCE Oklahoma challenged implementation of the Affordable Care Act after the IRS finalized a rule that would allow the federal government to punish “large employers,” including local government, with millions of dollars in tax penalties in states without state health care exchanges, which is not allowed under the health care law.
“Congress provided a choice for Oklahoma and other states in implementation of the health care law, and the IRS is attempting to take that away by rule,” General Pruitt said. “The administration miscalculated how many states would support this law, so now they’re using the IRS to push through provisions that Congress did not pass.”
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PROTECT YOURSELF---Obamacare is easy pickins for identity thieves. Steps to take to minimize risk of identity theft:
1. Contact the IRS Identity Protection Specialized Unit at 1-800-908-4490
2. Order a tax account transcript from the IRS that verifies basic personal data along with details of your tax return filed, which may come in handy if you are checking to see whether someone else filed a fraudulent return on your behalf
The Federal Trade Commission (link at website) also lists several steps you must take if you have been a victim of identity theft.
SOURCE http://www.cnbc.com/id/100918004
Here’s a thought. Have a government shutdown long enough to pay for any money that would be going to Obamacare.
By denying money to other parts of the government, at least we won’t be spending any more in deficit on Obamacare. And it will start to soften them up for some real cuts further down the line.
So, for a slogan: “We can save 10% on the budget by shutting down the government until we have spent 10% less.”
Yes, it is totally irrational, but it would be hilarious.
The only people not throwing in the towel are us on the right who truly want it to go away!
Rand is not saying it is not possible to defeat obamacare. He is just noting that the GOP is majority led by establishment types who are gonna fold like accordions and that is why defeating it, at least this yea, may simply be too tall of an order. The House can eliminate obamacare, but is not gonna go through with it unless there are many more Rand Pauls and Ted Cruzes. Paul seems to be simply saying that the GOP elites who are the majority in the House are way too weak willed to join him and Ted Cruz in the trenches.
I agree it is pretty much a no brainer, he is saying he doubts the House resolution could emerge from a Senate debate unscathed and unamended.
Cruz is trying to instill some backbone into the Republicans and has succeeded in doing that in the House. Now he’s working on the senate Republicans. Rand Paul doesn’t help by making defeatist surrender monkey statements.
“Paul seems to be simply saying that the GOP elites who are the majority in the House are way too weak willed to join him and Ted Cruz in the trenches.”
He never said any such thing and he is not the one leading the fight, that would be CRUZ.
Rand Paul “We probably can’t defeat or get rid of Obamacare,”
Paul is the one that folded.
This is a sad day for Paul. He caved and conceded before the fight began. Any Republicrat in the House that votes for the bill on a discharge petition is political HISTORY.Hold Hold — We will win!!
Hey Rand, what did they offer you?
When I was studying the Constitution in law school, and when we studied the Vietnam War in history classes in college, the liberals were all agog at the strength of the Congress regarding the power of the purse. They liked to talk about how Congress used its power to appropriate money to force a President to stop fighting a war. If Congress can force a President to surrender to Communists, Congress can certainly force a Communist to surrender to American patriots.
That my friend could be one of the best and longest taglines in FR history.
We need to take names and start recalls or opposition races. That would wake these turds up IMO. Or better yet remove the problems as best we can one at a time or twenty at a time. :-)
Amen.
Great point! We used to fight the damned communists. I was there. Now we have one occupying the White House. We’ve fallen a long way.
Rand Paul making these public statements at this time is an indication of his lack of faith in the people to rise up about a grievance and a lack of faith in the House of representatives to hold the line.
Sadly, his defeatism is not the cry to battle that the people need to hear.
And...as always...whenever a republican uses the words “defund the government” describing the House resolution, then you know they are working for the other side and TRYING to demoralize the people.
They are ON THIS...naming and shaming!!
Scroll down to see roster...
Try again on the link, I get nothing to come up.
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