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Rand Paul: I'm Open to Voting for Immigration Bill
NewsMax ^ | 9 Jun 13 | Thomson/Reuters

Posted on 06/10/2013 11:17:43 AM PDT by xzins

Senator Rand Paul, a conservative Republican whose vote is being courted by supporters of a broad U.S. immigration bill, said on Sunday he is open to voting for the measure but wants changes, including tougher border security requirements. Paul, who has hinted at an interest in running for president in 2016, in March backed the concept of a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants that is at the heart of a comprehensive immigration bill under consideration in the U.S. Senate.

But Paul, of Kentucky, has also criticized some elements of the bill, saying it should provide a mechanism for assuring that the U.S. border with Mexico is secure. Paul also wants to see an expansion of visa programs that allow companies to hire workers from abroad.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; border; ethniccleansing; hurtscitizens; immigration; invasion; kentucky; lawless; mexico; no; nojobs; paul; randpaultruthfile; ronpaultruthfile
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To: Windflier
Thanks! :O)
81 posted on 06/11/2013 4:33:30 AM PDT by Old Badger (Don't bother me! I still like Palin because she will tell like it is!)
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To: Carry_Okie
Did he?

Or do you have a desire to believe what his detractors are saying he said absent an actual quote from him or an actual vote on a real piece of legislation?

We are, sometimes, our own worst enemies...

82 posted on 06/11/2013 5:27:28 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: ScottinVA

If you read the article Paul is opposed to the gang of 8 bill.


83 posted on 06/11/2013 5:39:55 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been offically denied)
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To: EXCH54FE
"I'm really trying to make immigration work, but they are going to have to come to me and they're going to have to work to make the bill stronger if they want me to vote for it," Paul added. "

So bottom line is Paul does NOT support the bill. He wants stronger enforcement FIRST.

84 posted on 06/11/2013 5:46:32 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been offically denied)
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To: Dead Corpse
Or do you have a desire to believe what his detractors are saying he said absent an actual quote from him or an actual vote on a real piece of legislation?

Here is a quote.

"I'm really trying to make immigration work, but they are going to have to come to me and they're going to have to work to make the bill stronger if they want me to vote for it," Paul added."

This bill has so many provisions having nothing to do with immigration and everything to do with outrageous violations of civil liberties that it should be scrapped entirely and the process restarted. It is a 1500 page monster. If Paul had said, 'I want immigration reform, but this is not it,' I'd have no problem. The problem is that HIS CHOICE OF LANGUAGE made it possible to construe that he might vote for it after a few tweaks.

We are, sometimes, our own worst enemies...

Indeed. Yet if he gets a promise of 'border security first' and then finds himself trapped into voting for it because of what he said, junior will have participated in a travesty. He's a libertarian at heart, and that group has always believed in open borders as a matter of individual liberty.

85 posted on 06/11/2013 6:12:48 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (An economy is not a zero-sum game, but politics usually is.)
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To: Carry_Okie
"Paul said he dislikes the plan’s cap on agricultural workers. He also wants people who are in the U.S. on work visas to stand in line for U.S. citizenship in their country of origin, and he would not create a new path to citizenship.

Paul is very good on illegal immigration and border enforcement. He should be supported and not bashed.

86 posted on 06/11/2013 6:16:02 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been offically denied)
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To: jpsb
Paul is very good on illegal immigration and border enforcement. He should be supported and not bashed.

There is more to this bill than immigration, not the least of which is the requirement for a biometric ID card. It is so disastrous that his conversation should give the process no legitimacy.

87 posted on 06/11/2013 6:23:41 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (An economy is not a zero-sum game, but politics usually is.)
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To: Carry_Okie
And what if he really can fix it? End the welfare and perks going to illegals? Get a real border security solution? Make those currently here "self deport" and come back legally? Cut that 1500 pages down to a couple hundred that actually does what we want it to do?

I don't think that is what some here want. I think they are just running around waving their hands in the air and making noise to cover the fact that they just don't want anyone new coming here. Ever. From anywhere.

Anyone who wants to come here, legally, to BE Americans should be allowed the chance. Not to be a welfare leach. Not to undermine us from withing as some "Reconquista" movement. My Grandparent on my Fathers side came here from the Ukraine to BE Americans. To give that promise of self-created opportunity to their children.

But then again, we aren't as "free" as we used to be and a lot of the "opportunity" we used to have is gone under an avalanche of .gov bureaucracy.

88 posted on 06/11/2013 7:12:42 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Dead Corpse
And what if he really can fix it?

We're down to "what if"? Gad.

End the welfare and perks going to illegals? Get a real border security solution? Make those currently here "self deport" and come back legally? Cut that 1500 pages down to a couple hundred that actually does what we want it to do?

That's just silly. Really, it would then not be the bill that just came out of committee, which is the bill under discussion. Try to stick to the topic. This isn't about some hypothetical bill.

The only way he can fix this bill is to introduce his own from scratch. This bill must die.

I don't think that is what some here want. I think they are just running around waving their hands in the air and making noise to cover the fact that they just don't want anyone new coming here. Ever. From anywhere.

Then you are in fantasy land. I am not going to debate your fantasies. I am discussing the bill that just came out of committee. You know, the one that is going to be voted upon, the one Paul was being asked about, deliberately, in order to cause a stir. He fell for it.

Anyone who wants to come here, legally, to BE Americans should be allowed the chance. Not to be a welfare leach. Not to undermine us from withing as some "Reconquista" movement. My Grandparent on my Fathers side came here from the Ukraine to BE Americans. To give that promise of self-created opportunity to their children.

We agree there, but that is not what this bill is about. This bill was written by La Raza activists. It is exactly what you DON'T want. "Making changes" won't fix it; it is not savable. They should scrap it and start over. Got it?

89 posted on 06/11/2013 7:24:27 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (An economy is not a zero-sum game, but politics usually is.)
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To: Carry_Okie
This bill must die.

I just saw in the forum where they are pushing for cloture today. No time to amend it now...

Rand better hold up his promise to roadblock it if it can't be fixed.

If he doesn't... Then I'll join the pile on.

But not until after the votes are counted.

90 posted on 06/11/2013 7:29:16 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Dead Corpse
And what if he really can fix it?

It's not a fixable bill.

91 posted on 06/11/2013 7:31:49 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (An economy is not a zero-sum game, but politics usually is.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

There you go... dangerous indeed.


92 posted on 06/11/2013 7:52:25 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama lied, four men died, and he went to hide...)
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To: xzins
Et tu, Paulus?

Leni

93 posted on 06/11/2013 7:59:33 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: Carry_Okie

Well cloture just passed with only 15 opposed. I don’t yet know who voted what.


94 posted on 06/11/2013 11:58:38 AM PDT by SierraWasp ("Bitter Ender," "Bitter Clinger," Yes on both. COUNT ME IN!!! I love God and guns, but not gayness!!)
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To: Carry_Okie
The answers must be over here.
95 posted on 06/11/2013 12:00:21 PM PDT by SierraWasp ("Bitter Ender," "Bitter Clinger," Yes on both. COUNT ME IN!!! I love God and guns, but not gayness!!)
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To: Dead Corpse

Just another member of the Treason Lobby outing himself.


96 posted on 06/11/2013 10:54:52 PM PDT by Pelham (Deport illegal aliens? Hell yes!)
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Rand Paul's immigration speech
...The Republican Party must embrace more legal immigration.

Unfortunately, like many of the major debates in Washington, immigration has become a stalemate-where both sides are imprisoned by their own rhetoric or attachment to sacred cows that prevent the possibility of a balanced solution.

Immigration Reform will not occur until Conservative Republicans, like myself, become part of the solution. I am here today to begin that conversation.

Let's start that conversation by acknowledging we aren't going to deport 12 million illegal immigrants.

If you wish to work, if you wish to live and work in America, then we will find a place for you...

This is where prudence, compassion and thrift all point us toward the same goal: bringing these workers out of the shadows and into being taxpaying members of society.

Imagine 12 million people who are already here coming out of the shadows to become new taxpayers.12 million more people assimilating into society. 12 million more people being productive contributors.
[Posted on 03/19/2013 7:04:07 AM PDT by Perdogg]
Rand Paul calls on conservatives to embrace immigration reform
Latinos, should be a natural constituency for the party, Paul argued, but "Republicans have pushed them away with harsh rhetoric over immigration." ...he would create a bipartisan panel to determine how many visas should be granted for workers already in the United States and those who might follow... [and the buried lead] "Imagine 12 million people who are already here coming out of the shadows to become new taxpayers...
[Posted on 04/21/2013 1:52:42 PM PDT by SoConPubbie]
[but he's not in favor of amnesty, snicker, definition of is is]

97 posted on 05/03/2014 11:19:34 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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