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Rand Paul: 'When Republican Party looks like the rest of America, we'll win'
Christian Science Monitor via Yahoo News ^ | June 2, 2013 | Mark Trumbull

Posted on 06/02/2013 7:39:36 AM PDT by Innovative

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To: EternalVigilance
"social" issues involve things like where you going to go out to dinner, or who you're going to invite to your party.

Or what you're going to serve..., like pot brownies....

41 posted on 06/02/2013 8:17:27 AM PDT by freebilly
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To: Innovative
I think he is right. Since O took over, we have gained 9-10 Governorships, a few state legislations, 50 or so reps, and 2 Senate seats (which should have been at least 5 if not for self inflicted wounds). We have consolidated where we could. However, a national election means that we have to overcome 105% turnout and straight party line votes in every major city.

As my tag line says, the America we knew is gone. Started in the 60s with the immigration bill and- our beloved Reagan got snookered when he struck his immigration deal. The suburbs and Hispanic vote are where we will win or lose national elections.

42 posted on 06/02/2013 8:19:30 AM PDT by MattinNJ (It's over Johnny. The America you knew is gone. Denial serves no purpose.)
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To: NoGrayZone
He is very vague. Does he mean the homos, wacko enviornment peeps, global warming freaks, gay scouts, etc?

You left out the most important constituency, Pot Heads.

43 posted on 06/02/2013 8:20:03 AM PDT by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: The Toll
If by church you mean the flat screen in the living room then you are 100% on point.

There are better preachers on YouTube than you find in your local church, you should try some of them.

44 posted on 06/02/2013 8:22:34 AM PDT by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: itsahoot

Oops, my bad. Forgot it’s legal now. 20 lashes with a wet noodle for me!


45 posted on 06/02/2013 8:22:50 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

The teachings of feminism have drifted into churches, with the result that churches now are soft on single-motherhood, frivolous divorce, and female sexual promiscuity. The cute church-going girl with a string of non-Christian boyfriends, one of whom eventually gets her pregnant, is now a running cliche among the younger members of the church, the the older chuch members usually have no idea what is going on. Google “Sunday Morning Nightclub.”

In churches today you will often hear the false and unbiblical idea of female moral superiority over men on a regular basis. And especially, no pastor who wants to keep his job will ever tell women in Christian churches to submit to their husbands as the Bible demands. The result is rising single-motherhood, and the illegitimacy that characterized the black churches for decades is now growing in white churches. Illegitmacy causes women to want to seek the government as their father, and it causes them to want what Obama promised them in 2012: Free birth-control, free child care, and free abortions.


46 posted on 06/02/2013 8:29:14 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo ( Walker 2016)
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To: Thane_Banquo

Seems most of these problems could be solved by men living Biblical lives. Takes two to tango.


47 posted on 06/02/2013 8:34:19 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Innovative

The Republican party needs to go their own way. “I didn’t leave the party - the party left me”...


48 posted on 06/02/2013 8:35:13 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Innovative
I think he's smart to go to that part of the world with the message of fiscal and environmental sensibility conservative/libertarian republicans generally have.

No doubt they are ready to hear it in California.

The conservative/libertarian republican philosophy should contrast nicely with the manic hostility both areas receive from the other side that dominates their politics.

And, contrast nicely with the lip service given by the rinos, who have joined with the other side in trying to build an ever bigger, more powerful and intrusive GuvCo Beast.

An IRSS that profiles and then acts with malice aforethought against Richard Milhous obama's enemies and his friends' enemies should have their attention, along with their fear and loathing. And, honestly? That's just scratching the surface of the scandal feast they know their side is hiding.

Yep, there's likely to be a few who are ready to hear what Rand Paul has to say in that part of the world and I'm impressed that he's the one taking it to them.

49 posted on 06/02/2013 8:38:23 AM PDT by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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bkmk


50 posted on 06/02/2013 8:39:28 AM PDT by novemberslady
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To: Innovative
McCain's idea of how to win:

"You have nothing to fear from an Obama Administration."
We need to have compassion for folks who have come here and broken our laws
We need to close Guantanamo and move those people to the U. S. to stand trial
We need to back terrorist groups in Libya and Syria.

DoughtyOne's idea of how to win:

We believe in small government
We believe in strengthening the rights of citizens more than strengthening the rights of foreign nationals
We believe in the right of workers to keep more of their money
We believe your money is better spent when you do it, not when the government does it
We believe in getting off the back of businesses, so they can employ more people
We also believe in encouraging businesses to employ people in the U. S. over employing people overseas
We believe that mom and pop should raise their kids, and instill their beliefs in them
We believe that criminals should have it tough, not their neighbors
We believe in an eduction system that teaches traditional skills, and doesn't indoctrinate children politically
We believe your health care decisions should be made with your physician involved and not the government

51 posted on 06/02/2013 8:40:34 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Funny thing happened on the way to the Constitution burning, Lefties rights were violated...)
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To: Innovative

What a nit.


52 posted on 06/02/2013 8:43:53 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: Innovative

Maybe Rand Paul isn’t really trying to be so vague in his comments. It comes across that way though.


53 posted on 06/02/2013 8:44:36 AM PDT by novemberslady
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To: EricT.

I don’t agree. The GOP has a shrinking base. What it needs is intelligent Leaders (not many of those) that can articulate the benefits of Conservatism. I’m a pissed off base and I still vote GOP about 95% of the time. Other times I’ve passed on a vote r voted Third, but I’m pretty reliable and have found others to be so.

We are not in a majority and need to realize it and articulate. Otherwise, we are just screaming into the wind.


54 posted on 06/02/2013 8:46:06 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: Innovative

No Rand, when we get more of America to embrace the republican values we will win. When we finally get a candidate who can properly articulate the conservative viewpoint then the 4-5 million real republicans who sat home with show up to vote. Thats how we will win.


55 posted on 06/02/2013 8:48:53 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Innovative

If Paul wants the GOP to be a bigger tent party, the major way to accomplish that is with more freebies than the Dem party gives out.

And that means bigger government.

More taxes.

More spending.

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The more Paul speaks, the less I am liking what he says.

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Of course, the GOP could try to be a real alternative party, but that would mean developing and sticking to principles. Ironically, most of the principles that most people would want are right of center, conservative.

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I just don’t see a bigger tent with jellyfish leadership accomplishing much more than being a minority.


56 posted on 06/02/2013 8:50:28 AM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Men living Bliblical lives is constantly addressed from the pulpit. Not so with women. There is a “double-standard” double-standard. Whenever the idea of female sin is brought up, Churchians say, “But what about men! Why aren’t you talking about men! Why is there a double standard.” But when male sinfulness comes up, no one wver says, “But what about women! Why aren’t you talking about women too! It takes two to tango.”

Historically and socially, for the entirety of human civilization, men were the gatekeepers of commitment, and women the gatekeepers of sex. Marriage had social value because men gave commitment to women, in return for women giving sex. The result was a stable family unit in which the next generation could be raised. But when feminism came, women were taught that it was “liberating” to give sex to men without receiving corresponding commitment. It was feminism that got rid of the idea that women should require commitment, and it did so by making commitment—namely permanent matrimony—seem to women like it was misogyny and male-dominance.

Thirdly, though most church goers outside the millenial generation don’t realize this, it isn’t the nice church-going boys that the young girls are fornicating with. The pastor who demands that young men in his church live more Biblical lives, is not realizing that the guys who are causing half the problem aren’t present to hear his sermons. The church-going young women aren’t dating church-going young men. Those good boys aren’t exciting enough.

This isn’t always the pastor’s fault, since the older generation doesn’t often realize what is going on in thenyounger generations. But unfortunately, the church has to a large extent accepted the world’s feminist idea that it is wrong, sexist, etc. for the men of the community to oversee and regulate whom the young women are socializing with.


57 posted on 06/02/2013 8:50:33 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo ( Walker 2016)
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To: Innovative

So, does this mean a certain percentage of the Republicans are going to have to go on welfare and become “gay” or what?


58 posted on 06/02/2013 8:53:40 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (If you think ObamaCare is a train wreck, wait until you see the amnesty bill.)
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To: Thane_Banquo

Seems more a parenting problem than a church problem. But if churches started kicking out divorced people and unwed mothers, what would happen?


59 posted on 06/02/2013 9:04:31 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Innovative

How much does Mitt Romney look like the rest of America?


60 posted on 06/02/2013 9:04:47 AM PDT by RC one
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