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Officer's Weapon Accidentally Discharges on School Bus
http://www.policemag.com/channel/weapons/news/2013/05/15/officer-s-weapon-accidentally-discharges-on ^ | May 15, 2013 | staff

Posted on 05/16/2013 1:31:18 PM PDT by B4Ranch

The Winchester (Va.) Police Department is taking a close look at its officers' weapons holsters after an officer's gun accidentally went off in a special needs school bus.

The incident occurred Monday morning when a middle school student reached for a police officer's gun, reports TV3Winchester. Fortunately, no one was injured.

The officer had been dispatched to the bus to calm down the student. While the officer was sitting next to him, the student reached over and put his finger on the trigger of the weapon. The bullet went through the seat and hit the floor.


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To: B4Ranch

They’ve updated the story, still deliberately no mention of the officer’s gender, but they’ve blamed the holster.

http://www.tv3winchester.com/home/headlines/Weapon-Accidentally-Goes-off-on-City-School-Bus—207218241.html


61 posted on 05/16/2013 2:47:55 PM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: chris37
Yep, I realize that no round in the chamber may not be the best thing for cops. It’s not the best thing for me either considering how critical the element of surprise is, but having a round in the chamber with the hammer cocked makes me terribly nervous.

It's important you feel confident in your personal carry situation. But...I've had more than a few LEO's advise me to NOT carry without one in the chamber. Things go down so fast, that you may truly not have time to rack it. Further, what if you're other hand was busy warding off an attacker, and you didn't have a spare hand to rack it? None of my 9mm's have a safety. That's the way I want it, so there's no confusion of whether or not I have to disengage a safety. Training is of the upmost importance here (keeping that finger clear of the trigger unless it's go time), and this also comes into play while drawing your weapon (Blackhawk Serpa anyone?). Now, how this child was able to even reach the trigger, yeah, we're not getting the full story here...
62 posted on 05/16/2013 2:48:05 PM PDT by tickedoffnow (No more...)
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To: Marcella

“White male reporter.”

Ah, of course. Right.


63 posted on 05/16/2013 2:48:42 PM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: treetopsandroofs

This must be an older story.

This article has the (male) cop back on duty as of yesterday.

http://www.nvdaily.com/news/2013/05/officer-back-on-duty-after-gun-discharge-on-school-bus.php


64 posted on 05/16/2013 2:53:21 PM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: treetopsandroofs

“Lauren Cummings, police community relations specialist, said investigators have determined the gun fired accidentally through no fault of the officer.”


65 posted on 05/16/2013 2:54:44 PM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: treetopsandroofs

Just an out of control gun... Nothing to see here.


66 posted on 05/16/2013 2:55:35 PM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: B4Ranch

I suspect he was on-the-ready to shoot any dog that needed shooting!


67 posted on 05/16/2013 2:55:36 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (You don't have to be stupid to become a Progressive, but it does speed up the process.)
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To: Dr. Pritchett

Yes!

I pump my shotgun every time anyone sees it just so they can hear the shhk shhk :D

I am also that guy who every time time I make a move medieval style I flip my sword 360 degrees just so any potential opponent knows I can flip my sword like that!

But seriously, I have always kept my autos chamber empty just in case. I don’t want to accidentally shoot anyone.

I generally do not leave the house with my pistols unless going to the range, but here at home my revolver is loaded, and by design there is one in the chamber on that gun. My Springfield .40cal has a loaded magazine in the well, but that gun I do leave with empty chamber even though I think it is a very safely designed weapon.


68 posted on 05/16/2013 2:55:40 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

If there is mischief to be found, the cat will find it every time guaranteed.

I had forgotten that the 1911 features that safe hammer position, so if I had one of those, I think I’d be okay with leaving a round in the chamber.


69 posted on 05/16/2013 2:58:26 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: treetopsandroofs
“Lauren Cummings, police community relations specialist, said investigators have determined the gun fired accidentally through no fault of the officer.”

I guess they'll be initiating a massive recall of thousands of "accidentally firing" pistols any minute now? That doesn't seem very safe, having holstered handguns discharge at random intervals.

70 posted on 05/16/2013 3:02:17 PM PDT by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: B4Ranch

That Ossifer was riding the “Short Bus” for a reason.


71 posted on 05/16/2013 3:06:10 PM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam is antithetical to, and Islam is irreconcilable with, America. Therefore - Islam Delenda Est)
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To: xsrdx

Yes, you are right, I misworded my description.

The fact that there is no hammer on that weapon is something that makes me a little nervous, I’m not sure why it does though.

When there is a round in the chamber and the gun is cocked there is a visible mechanical notification that there is a round in the chamber and that the gun is cocked.

While I know that my gun is very safe, I suppose it’s just the mental image of the round in the chamber and the firing mechanism behind it cocked and waiting to be released that causes my concern.

That and I’ve read so many various stories of people getting shot by their own pistol as they do mundane things like sit on a toilet or things like that.

I’m not sure what kind of weapons they were carrying that could discharge like that. I guess I’ve always saw myself as the type of person that if I did carry in public it would be with an empty chamber. I just really do not want to accidentally shoot someone or myself for that matter.

That would be hard for me to live with.


72 posted on 05/16/2013 3:06:40 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: tickedoffnow

Yes, I would agree with those LEO’s. While I am very confident in my shooting skills, at least at the range, I can see that I am not confident in my carrying in public.

I suppose this is why I have never done it or sought a license to do it. Mainly my guns are for home protection and the glove compartment when I go into the city.


73 posted on 05/16/2013 3:09:39 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: treetopsandroofs
“(male) cop”

Yep.

I have the Ruger 38 special and a Colt 38 and their holsters cover the trigger housing. And, I have a fanny pack that looks like a purse and the Ruger fits in there just swell in the space made for it so it's covered completely - no way to pull the trigger accidently.

74 posted on 05/16/2013 3:15:44 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: chris37
Yes, I would agree with those LEO’s. While I am very confident in my shooting skills, at least at the range, I can see that I am not confident in my carrying in public. I suppose this is why I have never done it or sought a license to do it. Mainly my guns are for home protection and the glove compartment when I go into the city.

Understood, and it took me awhile to become accustomed to the idea of carrying with one in the chamber. And even today, although I like 1911's, I can't get used to the idea of carrying "cocked and locked", even with a safety. I actually prefer my safety less weapons that are chambered! It is a mental exercise....:)
75 posted on 05/16/2013 3:18:04 PM PDT by tickedoffnow (No more...)
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To: Marcella

Look up the youtube video of the “Minority” adipose enhanced, female officer who runs up to a suspect on the ground with an officer busy handcuffing said suspect. D*ckless Tracey shoots the helpless and non-resisting suspect while the officer is straddling said suspect adjusting the handcuffs.

MS Affirrmative Hire, and many like her who show up at ranges across America and in the process become walking talking jokes, are why such attitudes regarding female LEOs are so common.


76 posted on 05/16/2013 3:18:15 PM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam is antithetical to, and Islam is irreconcilable with, America. Therefore - Islam Delenda Est)
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To: B4Ranch
While the officer was sitting next to him, the student reached over and put his finger on the trigger of the weapon.

What sort of Officer's holster does not cover the trigger?

And knock the Glock crap off.

77 posted on 05/16/2013 3:18:41 PM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: Sender

“...and that’s a really good idea with no safety.”

It is spelled G-L-O-C-K


78 posted on 05/16/2013 3:23:41 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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To: Gabrial

Hmmm... don’t think I would feel comfortable with that. Thanks for sharing. Highly doubt this is the kind of holster the police officer was wearing that day.


79 posted on 05/16/2013 3:30:08 PM PDT by Roos_Girl (The world is full of educated derelicts. - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: chris37

“Secondly, my auto pistol, which is a Springfield .40 cal...”

I like my XD too, a lot! Mine happens to be .45 acp...

My son is a Deputy Sheriff, and he carry’s a revolver, 357 magnum, because he does not like the Glock, and the XD has not yet been approved by the Dept.


80 posted on 05/16/2013 3:30:31 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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