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Officer's Weapon Accidentally Discharges on School Bus
http://www.policemag.com/channel/weapons/news/2013/05/15/officer-s-weapon-accidentally-discharges-on ^ | May 15, 2013 | staff

Posted on 05/16/2013 1:31:18 PM PDT by B4Ranch

The Winchester (Va.) Police Department is taking a close look at its officers' weapons holsters after an officer's gun accidentally went off in a special needs school bus.

The incident occurred Monday morning when a middle school student reached for a police officer's gun, reports TV3Winchester. Fortunately, no one was injured.

The officer had been dispatched to the bus to calm down the student. While the officer was sitting next to him, the student reached over and put his finger on the trigger of the weapon. The bullet went through the seat and hit the floor.


TOPICS: Government; US: Virginia
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To: driftdiver

Unloaded ones, My 1911 won’t, have to have grip safety engaged,, hhmm many others, next question.


21 posted on 05/16/2013 1:49:51 PM PDT by Airwinger ( A Militia Of One)
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To: chris37

Not trying to start anything here, but I respectfully disagree with your “no round in the chamber” philosophy, because especially with your particular weapon, there is a grip safety, drop safety and trigger safety.

It is impossible for the striker to do its job without these safeties disengaged. There just simply is not enough time, when the criminal already has the element of surprise, to chamber a round. Seconds count, IMHO.


22 posted on 05/16/2013 1:50:54 PM PDT by scott7278 ("...I have not changed Congress and how it operates the way I would have liked..." - BHO)
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To: treetopsandroofs

Maybe a “Rent A Cop”?


23 posted on 05/16/2013 1:52:35 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: B4Ranch

Ping for later


24 posted on 05/16/2013 1:54:52 PM PDT by IChing
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To: lacrew

“...drawing his service revolver”

drawing his service Glock .40cal


25 posted on 05/16/2013 1:55:00 PM PDT by Carriage Hill (AR-10s & AR-15s are the Muskets of the 21st Century. Free men need not ask permission.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I’ve had a glock for 14 years and have never had a problem.


26 posted on 05/16/2013 1:57:28 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do uwhen I have a fire.)
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To: Airwinger

Really an unloaded weapon won’t fire!!! Why you must be a firearms specialist!


27 posted on 05/16/2013 1:58:54 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do uwhen I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

“how many guns don’t fire when you pull the trigger?”

Well....

Any variant of the 1911 that has a grip safety.

Any weapon with an external safety that isn’t next to the trigger.

My 92FS has a firing pin block, so as long as its on safe, I can beat it with a hammer, drop it, whatever, and it won’t go off.


28 posted on 05/16/2013 1:59:01 PM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: humblegunner

“Never mind.”

I want to hear the WHOLE story.


29 posted on 05/16/2013 2:00:04 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: carriage_hill

“There are a lot of semis chambered in various calibers, which have no external safety;”

True, but since something like 40% of LE use Glocks, I’m sticking to my guess.


30 posted on 05/16/2013 2:00:25 PM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: driftdiver
I think it's like cilantro. It's genetic. You love 'em or you hate 'em. Brother is the same way as you. He loves 'em.

I grew up on 1911 style, and have never had a negligent discharge.

Brother was never military, so we have different expectations/skillsets.

I don't begrudge Glock owners. I just won't be one.

Although, when push almost came to shove, I did borrow one. ;)

/johnny

31 posted on 05/16/2013 2:01:05 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: treetopsandroofs

“Wonder if it was a female officer.”

What do you mean by that?


32 posted on 05/16/2013 2:01:14 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: driftdiver
I think it's like cilantro. It's genetic. You love 'em or you hate 'em. Brother is the same way as you. He loves 'em.

I grew up on 1911 style, and have never had a negligent discharge.

Brother was never military, so we have different expectations/skillsets.

I don't begrudge Glock owners. I just won't be one.

Although, when push almost came to shove, I did borrow one. ;)

/johnny

33 posted on 05/16/2013 2:01:59 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: scott7278
There just simply is not enough time, when the criminal already has the element of surprise, to chamber a round.

+1, if you can't carry the gun loaded, don't bother.

Keep your finger off the trigger until ready to shoot.

Until the moment milliseconds prior to sight alignment on a target you intend to shoot, your finger should be outside the trigger guard.

34 posted on 05/16/2013 2:02:50 PM PDT by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: Marcella; humblegunner
I want to hear the WHOLE story.

Prevert. He's from Texas, it was probably a Band bus.

/johnny

35 posted on 05/16/2013 2:03:11 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: carriage_hill

My Ruger 38 special with P has no safety.


36 posted on 05/16/2013 2:03:39 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: scott7278

Yep, I realize that no round in the chamber may not be the best thing for cops.

It’s not the best thing for me either considering how critical the element of surprise is, but having a round in the chamber with the hammer cocked makes me terribly nervous.

But, that being said, I still do not see how this officer’s gun could be fired as was described unless it had no similar safety features.

I would think that if it is police policy to always have a round chambered and ready to fire, then it would be wise to have weapons which had features that would prevent accidental firing of a loaded weapon.


37 posted on 05/16/2013 2:04:15 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: carriage_hill
No disrespect meant to those of you who carry your weapon chamber empty, that of course is a personal choice. Anyone who shoots themselves while drawing or holstering had their finger on the trigger and were A. improperly trained or B. just plain stupid.

If you carry "Chamber Empty" and need to employ your weapon in a stressful situation, you will be way behind the power curve in the fight. Best wishes

38 posted on 05/16/2013 2:04:16 PM PDT by thegrump
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To: lacrew

Yep, and the cop probably did a Roker!


39 posted on 05/16/2013 2:04:26 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: B4Ranch
While the officer was sitting next to him, the student reached over and put his finger on the trigger of the weapon.

So, the headline is factually incorrect. The weapon didn't "accidentally discharge"; a person accidentally PULLED THE FREAKING TRIGGER of the weapon. Why would anyone wear a holster that allows the trigger to be pulled on a holstered handgun?

40 posted on 05/16/2013 2:05:27 PM PDT by VRWCmember
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